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the oldest

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and strongest human emotion is fear

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and the oldest and strongest type of

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fear

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is trepidation of the unknown

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when we were children our parents told

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us that monsters didn't exist

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but we were sure that something was

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lurking under the bed or in the closet

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fear sees even if our eyes are closed

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welcome to the realm of the arcane my

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name is lon

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strickler join me as i examine

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unexplained creatures

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strange manifestations of remarkable

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realities

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imagine this next hour as a voyage of

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discovery to strange lands

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seeking not for new territory but for

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new knowledge of the supernatural

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come on board as we begin this adventure

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hey folks good evening and welcome to

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another episode of arcane radio where we

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explore the unexplained

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live on beyond explanation with audio

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on paranormal king radio network i'm

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your host lon strickler coming to you

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and some perks so tonight

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i welcome phantoms and monsters 14

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research investigators butch mccaskey

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shawn forker and marcus ellis to arcane

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giving updates on ongoing investigations

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discussing new cases and with your

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questions

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uh butch wikowski is a ufo paranormal

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cryptic investigator

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and the founder of the ufo research

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center of pennsylvania

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based in birdsboro pennsylvania sean

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forker is a bigfoot encrypted

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investigator as well as a radio

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personality

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he hails from williamsport pennsylvania

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and marcus ellis is a bigfoot and

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paranormal investigator from central

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mississippi

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he is also an accomplished musician the

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phantoms and monsters 14 research team

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can be found at cryptidhunters.org

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so gentlemen thank you for joining me

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this evening

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thanks for having us lon hello always a

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pleasure to be here

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well you know it hasn't really been too

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busy i mean like

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from you guys i think but for me it's

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been somewhat

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hectic keeping up with some of the

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strange things

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that have been going on but what i'm

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gonna do is i'm gonna go

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around the horn here and uh have you

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guys update us on some of the

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investigations

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that you've been working on so um butch

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what's been going on

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uh on your end

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up uh well two or upright canines uh one

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county uh one that we're not sure of it

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be a bigfoot report that's up in center

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county sean's going to be handling that

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and then i have a um a

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rake like being in uh

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below elverson pennsylvania and french

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this time i think i really lucked out

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because i have two

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park rangers one on each end that are

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going to help out with information

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mapping anything else that i need

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and it's really good now because the

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parks are closed so it's pretty much

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running around but i'm sure you remember

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that you and your son matt were at and

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i'll be going over there next saturday

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at 9 00 a.m uh

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speak with the gentleman that lives

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there and to see if anything's been

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popping up

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he did put out trail cams they put out

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at the back door there toward where he

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where lon

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you were walking uh when you heard what

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one is facing that from the back back of

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so we'll see if he's got anything going

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there uh he doesn't have a computer to

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download this stuff so i'm just gonna

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download his cards and uh see what he

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other than that has just been you know

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really busy just keeping up with old

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uh you know trying to update the older

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uh of course i always have my thing with

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diet loft pass

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i've been working on that forever plus

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todd steven but um other than that

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you know ufo sightings are up uh

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k9 bigfoot sightings are up

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so enough to keep you busy

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and i know you're busy i've been getting

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a lot of crazy stuff i got a uh

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and i i mentioned to sean and no no you

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learned

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anyway i talked to a guy up in lake

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placid new york today

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and it's interesting because we just we

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just brought a new affiliate in

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in the group who lives up there well

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this was an old report from back in the

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other guy a friend of his father's

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uh shot something that the way he

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described it to me

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was like a wendigo uh this guy was in

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the service you know he had

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been a commando and uh they were nom and

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um this thing came rushing at him and he

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had a remington 270 and popped

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six rounds in this thing and killed it

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they it took two pickup trucks

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one with a cable or a rope

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actually pulling the thing up from the

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front side

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up over the truck into the pit of the

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other truck

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this thing was huge and um

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the description was that of a head

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that was like either a horse-like head

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maybe the snap like of a canine but had

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eyes like that of a human that were not

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were set to the side and he said it was

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about eight foot

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that color was all around and he said

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when it was laying in the back of the

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truck he took a stick

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and literally took this dull stick and

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stuck it right through this thing

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now it wasn't non-corporal i mean there

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was a give to it

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so he has no idea what it was so

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eventually he took this thing they took

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so by that time this guy's

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i don't know what i had the initials of

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the group up in new york but it was a

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federal group

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i mean state group it was a state uh

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game

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commission and they came and took it and

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they said well we'll take this off your

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hands and that was it

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now unfortunately now he did get some

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evidence off of it

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uh and apparently this guy still has

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he's still around

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so that's what i'm working on at this

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point now i don't know

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what to think of this but pretty pretty

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bizarre so uh we'll see what that

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turns out to be so uh

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sean what's going on with you well i'm

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kind of like butch right now a lot i'm

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going through the backlog

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until this center county sighting popped

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and uh it was funny because when the

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sighting came up

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i missed it on phantomsandmonsters.com

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it just started getting

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social media blasted to me via whatever

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some nexus

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whatever that takes your stories and

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kind of pushes them out there oh it came

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out of nexus feed

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okay yeah and uh so like everybody's

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sending me this link so i'm like all

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right so i read the report you know this

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massive eight foot tall bigfoot and

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i got a hold of you and uh i want to get

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out there and get

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literal boots on the ground to get an

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area of this terrain i know butch talked

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to the witness a little bit

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there's some details we got to work out

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there a little without going too much

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you know into it because it still is an

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active investigation and you guys know i

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don't like to comment on active

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investigations too often

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and but i'm excited about that but a lot

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of it is working

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uh the historical stuff and it's funny

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because this case out of center county

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it really took me by interest because

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i've been getting reports out of there

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in the last couple years

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a lot more often than i ever have and if

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you look at uh

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bfro gcbro even the old pa bigfoot

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society website

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there aren't a lot of citing reports

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from that area listed

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but if i go through your blog through

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the search feature

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or i go back to various notes i have

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there's a lot of reports there

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that aren't listed anywhere so to me

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it's really interesting and i think it's

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and i've said this many times during

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many interviews

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uh this part of the state up until

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recently wasn't a very

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actively investigated part of the state

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and it's a very

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conservative area to the state with a

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lot of hunters and outdoorsmen

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that don't like to report this stuff

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when they have a sighting

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right until a year years later so yeah

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when we get a report up here people kind

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of give me the whole well that was years

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well yeah but it still doesn't make it

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any less significant

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you know it still needs to be analyzed

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and looked at and though we might not be

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able to get anything physical from it we

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can build

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part of a profile and this is what

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happens when you're trying to actively

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a creature lack of a better term right

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we we don't know what this is

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we'll fight for years if it's flesh and

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blood or it has some sort of other

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aspect to it

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but the fact of the matter is we can

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start building a profile around it

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so that's what i'm working on a lot of

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historical stuff and then this case that

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just popped down right in front of me

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i'm really just eager to get out there

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you know what we need to do now we

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started doing it with the uh

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the upright canines and dog men in

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pennsylvania

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even though my map got

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taken down somehow by google we need to

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take

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all the cryptid sightings in

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pennsylvania and document them somehow i

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mean i'm getting a lot of stuff

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reported to me that never gets in any of

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the databases

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uh with you you know with you guys or

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you know pennsylvania

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cryptozoology or any of these groups um

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even there's even a pennsylvania dog man

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group so i don't know

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um maybe i need to we need to do

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something about that i don't know

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well my brother ray did have a google

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earth file

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populated with all the cities in

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pennsylvania he was able to compile

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so if i could find that and send that

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your way that'd be a good first step

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and all that part when we were running

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the keystone bigfoot project that was a

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big goal of mine was to

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map bigfoot sightings in pa but i'm with

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you i think we need to go the next step

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further and

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document all the weird crap and get it

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and get it put up on a map somewhere

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yeah yeah

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well i mean it's uh it's kind of the

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opposite that

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you know from you guys uh you guys have

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got more stuff coming at you than

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uh you know the the law will probably

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allow

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uh here in mississippi it's it's it's a

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lot harder to come by

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people are are uh you know like

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like the old saying from monty python

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and the holy grail it's getting better

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but uh we're just not quite there yet

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people are real reticent to come forward

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still

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um just the other day though

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you know taking the opposite side of the

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coin uh

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a co-worker the uh

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well a former co-worker contacted me and

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sent me a picture they were out hiking

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uh out in uh on the edge

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of yazoo county and they sent me a

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picture of a possible track

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uh it was it was compelling

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i can't say for sure that it was or was

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not a track

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but considering the fact that we now

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know that that bigfoot is active

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in in this county and in mississippi

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period

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uh you know it's possible and the track

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was found close to a swampy area

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and down here in the south these

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creatures

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love swampy wetlands type areas it's

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it's the perfect

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place to hide

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lots of food and water sources so it's

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something that

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hopefully in the next couple of weeks

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i'll i'll look at

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a couple years ago i joined up with

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with mufon and became a field

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investigator

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and ufo sightings ufo sightings have

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been on the rise here in mississippi

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uh you know i i just about

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can't go a couple of weeks and not get a

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ufo sighting you know through through

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mufon

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yeah and some of them a couple of them

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are kind of

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what i would call historical sightings

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so uh and you know the

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i think long we talked about this when i

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was on you know months ago

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the uh the gates of hail area which is

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kind of a

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a paranormal hot spot that

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you know i kind of took under my wing or

390
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it took me under its wing or whatever

391
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i was out there just a couple of weeks

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ago and

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uh had i mean i had something just

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just plain old bizarre happen and occur

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and

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it just it just never fails every time i

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go out to this spot

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you know where these three indian mounds

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are at this confluence

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uh you know it it something happens and

401
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and

402
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i'll be totally honest with you

403
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you know me and mk davis first started

404
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going out there

405
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because of bigfoot because we thought

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that it was cryptid activity

407
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and i think now the line has blurred

408
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because so many things have happened

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to me that were that were paranormal i

410
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mean it's just no other way to say it so

411
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uh that that place will

412
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you think you're just gonna go out there

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and take some pictures

414
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and take some video uh

415
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and that place will just snap you to

416
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attention real quick

417
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every time you think that you're just

418
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gonna go for a

419
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wrong

420
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well we got a question here from vincent

421
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do you think paranormal activity

422
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increases during halloween

423
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what's your thoughts on that butch

424
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um yeah i think so uh

425
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but you know you can almost figure out

426
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what they are uh

427
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you know it's almost like the guiding

428
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gillies

429
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playing bigfoot but um

430
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i i think the history of halloween or

431
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all hollows

432
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i mean it just it just carries

433
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everybody's perception of you know

434
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the dark and gloomy full moon moon that

435
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might

436
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you know night with everything running

437
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around from from bigfoot to werewolves

438
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to

439
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else

440
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it's uh i i don't know that it's

441
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i think people really enjoy halloween

442
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you know our our friend and cohort uh

443
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there's halloween take the day after

444
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christmas

445
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yeah that's right i think i think you

446
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know

447
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it's i think people have a lot of fun

448
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with it

449
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especially the kids and uh unfortunately

450
00:17:44,230 --> 00:17:41,200
right now here

451
00:17:46,230 --> 00:17:44,240
we have a really cold rain and ain't too

452
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much activity outside but

453
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i'm sure they'll make up for tomorrow if

454
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it's nice out

455
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i think people get excited about it i

456
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think excitement's up but i don't think

457
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uh activity and the set true sense of

458
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the fuel

459
00:18:06,390 --> 00:18:05,360
you know true sense of the being

460
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actually

461
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uh picks up i think people's awareness

462
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and the predilection to being excited

463
00:18:13,430 --> 00:18:11,679
and

464
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about things that go bump in the night

465
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but i don't think i i think if even if

466
00:18:18,390 --> 00:18:16,880
we looked at the data

467
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i don't think there's anything that says

468
00:18:21,830 --> 00:18:20,320
because it's halloween the activity gets

469
00:18:24,150 --> 00:18:21,840
a little bit more

470
00:18:25,190 --> 00:18:24,160
uh prevalent i think it just does

471
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exciting

472
00:18:30,549 --> 00:18:27,520
yeah i agree with you i don't i don't

473
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really notice much of a difference

474
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so um well you would because you get it

475
00:18:36,789 --> 00:18:33,679
all

476
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day long so you would never i'm so used

477
00:18:46,230 --> 00:18:43,270
uh white yetis uh

478
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albino bigfoot any any albino sightings

479
00:18:48,310 --> 00:18:46,880
lately

480
00:18:50,549 --> 00:18:48,320
you know we had that one here in

481
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pennsylvania a while back

482
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uh but boy i don't i can't recall any of

483
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them since then

484
00:18:58,870 --> 00:18:57,600
do you guys remember any um my friend

485
00:19:02,230 --> 00:18:58,880
dan nadrello

486
00:19:04,710 --> 00:19:02,240
on facebook runs the uh i think white

487
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bipedal hominid website or uh facebook

488
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group

489
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is that right and uh it's about all

490
00:19:11,990 --> 00:19:09,600
about cataloging

491
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uh white or light-colored bigfoot

492
00:19:15,350 --> 00:19:12,960
sightings and there's a

493
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ton on there it's an exciting group to

494
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be a part of because the information

495
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gets

496
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there's a lot more than i ever thought

497
00:19:25,590 --> 00:19:24,480
i've been writing an article about the

498
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about this uh

499
00:19:29,830 --> 00:19:27,919
exact thing that'll be coming out soon

500
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uh it just kind of started with don

501
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keating's video

502
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in the you know early 90s i think it was

503
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92

504
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uh but yeah there's still sightings that

505
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happened uh somebody

506
00:19:42,390 --> 00:19:39,760
i wish i could remember who i was

507
00:19:43,750 --> 00:19:42,400
talking to just recently said they were

508
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investigating a uh

509
00:19:49,830 --> 00:19:46,640
light color blonde bigfoot uh sighting

510
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so they're still around cajun will get

511
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one i mean

512
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but like i said the one i think i was in

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the allegheny

514
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national forest around that area i

515
00:20:04,310 --> 00:20:01,120
remember that one

516
00:20:08,950 --> 00:20:04,320
around here but i uh i can't quite

517
00:20:16,310 --> 00:20:12,549
that's uh i'm not aware of any albino

518
00:20:17,669 --> 00:20:16,320
sightings in in in mississippi but i

519
00:20:21,510 --> 00:20:17,679
know of one

520
00:20:24,710 --> 00:20:21,520
that was captured on a video in texas

521
00:20:25,430 --> 00:20:24,720
you know texas has a lot of bigfoot

522
00:20:28,470 --> 00:20:25,440
activity

523
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and this family was being

524
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they were basically being terrorized on

525
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this farm

526
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and they managed to figure out a way to

527
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uh set up cameras and and catch a few of

528
00:20:41,750 --> 00:20:38,640
these

529
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things on on video and one of the ones

530
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that they caught

531
00:20:50,789 --> 00:20:46,840
uh it was white it was a a white albino

532
00:20:53,510 --> 00:20:50,799
bigfoot so they're there

533
00:20:55,990 --> 00:20:53,520
yeah i got a i got a guy who uh owns a

534
00:20:59,590 --> 00:20:56,000
ranch on guadalupe river and

535
00:21:02,149 --> 00:20:59,600
in the hill country in texas and

536
00:21:04,630 --> 00:21:02,159
he showed me some pretty interesting

537
00:21:07,029 --> 00:21:04,640
photographs over the years

538
00:21:08,230 --> 00:21:07,039
he said it's definite bituation there

539
00:21:11,990 --> 00:21:08,240
and

540
00:21:14,710 --> 00:21:12,000
um he did mention a lighter colored one

541
00:21:16,310 --> 00:21:14,720
yeah but i don't i don't you know other

542
00:21:17,990 --> 00:21:16,320
than that but there there seem to be a

543
00:21:20,549 --> 00:21:18,000
different varieties

544
00:21:21,110 --> 00:21:20,559
of colors and the ones that he's been

545
00:21:24,630 --> 00:21:21,120
seeing

546
00:21:27,830 --> 00:21:24,640
so i don't know i don't know that's

547
00:21:28,549 --> 00:21:27,840
uh i don't know it's just like anything

548
00:21:31,270 --> 00:21:28,559
else i guess

549
00:21:32,549 --> 00:21:31,280
it shows up then we talk about it you

550
00:21:33,510 --> 00:21:32,559
know i didn't say it that there's

551
00:21:36,149 --> 00:21:33,520
anything

552
00:21:36,950 --> 00:21:36,159
special about it rare right it's so rare

553
00:21:40,149 --> 00:21:36,960
that's yeah

554
00:21:41,830 --> 00:21:40,159
i mean you know albinism isn't that

555
00:21:44,549 --> 00:21:41,840
common in any

556
00:21:45,830 --> 00:21:44,559
no beaches so when you see it i guess

557
00:21:48,070 --> 00:21:45,840
the one thing that's been really

558
00:21:49,590 --> 00:21:48,080
interesting to me was the uh

559
00:21:51,510 --> 00:21:49,600
uh what do they call it the opposite the

560
00:21:53,990 --> 00:21:51,520
melanestic uh

561
00:21:55,669 --> 00:21:54,000
yeah cats cats and i think there was

562
00:21:57,029 --> 00:21:55,679
another animal i just saw recently that

563
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was pure

564
00:22:01,029 --> 00:21:59,039
pure black which was really different

565
00:22:03,590 --> 00:22:01,039
and cool it was uh

566
00:22:05,270 --> 00:22:03,600
who knows i'm sure that'll be the next

567
00:22:07,350 --> 00:22:05,280
thing

568
00:22:09,270 --> 00:22:07,360
well you know you go down further south

569
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and uh and even in mississippi because

570
00:22:11,669 --> 00:22:10,720
there's been some panther and cat

571
00:22:14,710 --> 00:22:11,679
sliding

572
00:22:17,350 --> 00:22:14,720
down there and uh

573
00:22:19,510 --> 00:22:17,360
all along the gulf coast you know

574
00:22:20,710 --> 00:22:19,520
there's been a lot of cat sightings and

575
00:22:23,830 --> 00:22:20,720
a lot of black cat

576
00:22:25,430 --> 00:22:23,840
black cat sightings that are probably

577
00:22:26,310 --> 00:22:25,440
florida panthers that are just

578
00:22:29,669 --> 00:22:26,320
melanistic

579
00:22:31,430 --> 00:22:29,679
so um you know one day we're gonna have

580
00:22:32,310 --> 00:22:31,440
to really take a better look into all

581
00:22:35,029 --> 00:22:32,320
that i mean

582
00:22:35,669 --> 00:22:35,039
as far as cryptozoology altogether

583
00:22:38,070 --> 00:22:35,679
because

584
00:22:39,750 --> 00:22:38,080
uh we know you know even though the

585
00:22:41,590 --> 00:22:39,760
state of pennsylvania is denied it

586
00:22:42,950 --> 00:22:41,600
always denies it we've got mountain

587
00:22:46,070 --> 00:22:42,960
lions here in pennsylvania

588
00:22:49,590 --> 00:22:46,080
and oh yeah i mean i saw one in maryland

589
00:22:52,070 --> 00:22:49,600
so i know they're here there's no

590
00:22:53,470 --> 00:22:52,080
fence that stops them you know it's not

591
00:22:56,470 --> 00:22:53,480
like an invisible

592
00:22:58,230 --> 00:22:56,480
anti-mountain lion shield up in pa that

593
00:23:00,549 --> 00:22:58,240
prevents it

594
00:23:01,590 --> 00:23:00,559
they killed one up in uh connecticut a

595
00:23:03,590 --> 00:23:01,600
couple years ago

596
00:23:04,870 --> 00:23:03,600
so they're getting they're coming down

597
00:23:05,430 --> 00:23:04,880
here i mean i don't know which way

598
00:23:07,830 --> 00:23:05,440
they're

599
00:23:09,350 --> 00:23:07,840
traveling some people seem to think they

600
00:23:12,230 --> 00:23:09,360
travel along southern

601
00:23:12,630 --> 00:23:12,240
canada and come back in you know either

602
00:23:15,350 --> 00:23:12,640
through

603
00:23:18,149 --> 00:23:15,360
new york or somewhere but then again

604
00:23:21,270 --> 00:23:18,159
they killed one in chicago years ago

605
00:23:23,029 --> 00:23:21,280
so i i don't know you know

606
00:23:24,470 --> 00:23:23,039
but they're here i mean it's just like

607
00:23:27,430 --> 00:23:24,480
it's you know

608
00:23:28,630 --> 00:23:27,440
we didn't have coyotes here 30 years ago

609
00:23:30,950 --> 00:23:28,640
now they're everywhere

610
00:23:32,789 --> 00:23:30,960
we short he'll have now we have these

611
00:23:35,669 --> 00:23:32,799
koi wolves as well

612
00:23:36,710 --> 00:23:35,679
which are a mix of uh well they have koi

613
00:23:38,630 --> 00:23:36,720
dogs too but

614
00:23:39,909 --> 00:23:38,640
they have the koi walls which are a mix

615
00:23:42,950 --> 00:23:39,919
of coyote and

616
00:23:45,190 --> 00:23:42,960
uh timber timberwolves

617
00:23:47,110 --> 00:23:45,200
that are coming down from canada and of

618
00:23:49,190 --> 00:23:47,120
course these coyotes have been mating

619
00:23:51,990 --> 00:23:49,200
with record dogs

620
00:23:53,269 --> 00:23:52,000
so uh yeah butch could tell you that the

621
00:23:55,669 --> 00:23:53,279
coin walls

622
00:23:57,350 --> 00:23:55,679
are thick in central pa well i have to

623
00:23:59,590 --> 00:23:57,360
tell you i was coming home one night

624
00:24:01,750 --> 00:23:59,600
probably about quarter of midnight down

625
00:24:03,830 --> 00:24:01,760
route 87 which is the northern part of

626
00:24:07,029 --> 00:24:03,840
central

627
00:24:10,549 --> 00:24:07,039
from between barbers to williamsport and

628
00:24:12,789 --> 00:24:10,559
a large canine crossed the road right in

629
00:24:13,669 --> 00:24:12,799
front of me and it was as wide as half

630
00:24:17,110 --> 00:24:13,679
the lane of

631
00:24:18,870 --> 00:24:17,120
half the road i mean it was huge and

632
00:24:21,510 --> 00:24:18,880
i actually stopped and pulled over and

633
00:24:25,110 --> 00:24:21,520
called my buddy brian

634
00:24:28,070 --> 00:24:25,120
who is a uh retired canine cop

635
00:24:28,470 --> 00:24:28,080
bro uh butch you've met brian and uh

636
00:24:32,710 --> 00:24:28,480
yeah

637
00:24:34,070 --> 00:24:32,720
of these coi wolves or something around

638
00:24:35,909 --> 00:24:34,080
here because uh

639
00:24:37,029 --> 00:24:35,919
none of his neighbor's dogs were out and

640
00:24:37,909 --> 00:24:37,039
it would have been further away from his

641
00:24:39,350 --> 00:24:37,919
neighbor's dog

642
00:24:40,870 --> 00:24:39,360
but it scared the crap at him i almost

643
00:24:42,310 --> 00:24:40,880
called butch and said hey i think i saw

644
00:24:47,990 --> 00:24:42,320
a dog man

645
00:24:51,909 --> 00:24:49,909
when we were in clearfield the ranger

646
00:24:56,710 --> 00:24:51,919
showed us

647
00:24:59,909 --> 00:24:56,720
pack of uh eight and a pack of ten

648
00:25:01,269 --> 00:24:59,919
they're huge i mean people think well

649
00:25:01,830 --> 00:25:01,279
you what are you talking like german

650
00:25:04,149 --> 00:25:01,840
shepherd

651
00:25:05,350 --> 00:25:04,159
huge and we're like no much bigger than

652
00:25:07,430 --> 00:25:05,360
that

653
00:25:10,870 --> 00:25:07,440
and you know people got to remember

654
00:25:12,470 --> 00:25:10,880
those coils they have a wolf mentality

655
00:25:14,070 --> 00:25:12,480
you may look at one or two in front of

656
00:25:17,190 --> 00:25:14,080
you but i'd be worried about the eight

657
00:25:21,830 --> 00:25:19,669
yeah you know i know up in canada up in

658
00:25:23,510 --> 00:25:21,840
southern ontario around toronto they've

659
00:25:25,510 --> 00:25:23,520
had those coils up there

660
00:25:26,950 --> 00:25:25,520
for over 20 years in fact they've been

661
00:25:27,669 --> 00:25:26,960
trapping them and trying to move them

662
00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:27,679
off

663
00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:30,720
but uh they've got a distinctive look to

664
00:25:34,470 --> 00:25:32,320
them they are

665
00:25:36,310 --> 00:25:34,480
uh they look like a wolf but they got

666
00:25:37,590 --> 00:25:36,320
longer lengthier legs on them like that

667
00:25:41,590 --> 00:25:37,600
of a coyote

668
00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:41,600
and they're big i mean you know so uh

669
00:25:46,549 --> 00:25:44,640
i imagine sean saw one first thing you

670
00:25:47,909 --> 00:25:46,559
think i was just a regular wolf and

671
00:25:50,230 --> 00:25:47,919
of course we don't have wolves here in

672
00:25:51,990 --> 00:25:50,240
pennsylvania well that's what i thought

673
00:25:53,990 --> 00:25:52,000
like my god that's a wolf i'm like well

674
00:25:57,029 --> 00:25:54,000
it's not quite it was big in it

675
00:25:58,390 --> 00:25:57,039
i mean it wasn't like you know it sat

676
00:25:59,909 --> 00:25:58,400
around there and waited for me to give

677
00:26:01,430 --> 00:25:59,919
it a treat and you know look at it but i

678
00:26:03,190 --> 00:26:01,440
mean i got a good enough you to know

679
00:26:03,669 --> 00:26:03,200
what the hell i was looking at it was

680
00:26:07,110 --> 00:26:03,679
just

681
00:26:08,710 --> 00:26:07,120
big and uh you know it kind of goes to

682
00:26:10,070 --> 00:26:08,720
the you know the reality of some of

683
00:26:11,029 --> 00:26:10,080
these things we look for whether you

684
00:26:13,510 --> 00:26:11,039
believe in the

685
00:26:15,350 --> 00:26:13,520
uh bigfoot or the dog man there are real

686
00:26:17,190 --> 00:26:15,360
animals out there that could potentially

687
00:26:19,110 --> 00:26:17,200
harm you and you need to be on alert and

688
00:26:20,549 --> 00:26:19,120
pay attention to

689
00:26:22,070 --> 00:26:20,559
your surroundings and what's going on

690
00:26:23,669 --> 00:26:22,080
out there these things will hurt you i

691
00:26:24,230 --> 00:26:23,679
mean it's not because they're malicious

692
00:26:26,710 --> 00:26:24,240
it's just

693
00:26:29,510 --> 00:26:26,720
their nature and you you know can't

694
00:26:33,510 --> 00:26:31,750
well marcus i you know what kind of have

695
00:26:34,470 --> 00:26:33,520
you had any canine slaves down there now

696
00:26:39,029 --> 00:26:34,480
i know

697
00:26:40,630 --> 00:26:39,039
i have had a few in alabama uh i'm

698
00:26:42,870 --> 00:26:40,640
up around birmingham all around

699
00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:42,880
birmingham the suburbs have been a lot

700
00:26:47,110 --> 00:26:44,400
of canine sightings

701
00:26:48,549 --> 00:26:47,120
big canine sightings there have you

702
00:26:51,750 --> 00:26:48,559
heard of anything like that in your neck

703
00:26:57,269 --> 00:26:53,830
i have not and that's that's something

704
00:27:00,710 --> 00:27:00,230
you know it's it's amazing to me i mean

705
00:27:13,909 --> 00:27:00,720
we get

706
00:27:15,990 --> 00:27:13,919
the whole schmear but

707
00:27:17,830 --> 00:27:16,000
you know since i started investigating

708
00:27:19,830 --> 00:27:17,840
you know a few years back

709
00:27:20,870 --> 00:27:19,840
i have yet to have somebody come up and

710
00:27:24,149 --> 00:27:20,880
say hey

711
00:27:26,149 --> 00:27:24,159
you know we saw what you know people are

712
00:27:29,990 --> 00:27:26,159
referring to as a dog man

713
00:27:34,310 --> 00:27:30,000
now i forget the name of the website

714
00:27:39,269 --> 00:27:34,320
uh they're on facebook oh gosh

715
00:27:41,430 --> 00:27:39,279
oh there's a page on facebook that is

716
00:27:43,110 --> 00:27:41,440
dedicated to dogman you guys may know

717
00:27:46,149 --> 00:27:43,120
what i'm talking about

718
00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:46,159
um but they they've got a map and

719
00:27:52,070 --> 00:27:49,200
and there are a smattering of

720
00:27:53,909 --> 00:27:52,080
you know dog man sightings in

721
00:27:55,590 --> 00:27:53,919
mississippi

722
00:27:57,269 --> 00:27:55,600
but they're very few and very far

723
00:28:00,630 --> 00:27:57,279
between and

724
00:28:01,669 --> 00:28:00,640
uh i i don't i don't know i i don't know

725
00:28:03,909 --> 00:28:01,679
whether

726
00:28:05,830 --> 00:28:03,919
you know dog man just is not as

727
00:28:06,870 --> 00:28:05,840
prevalent here in mississippi or whether

728
00:28:09,669 --> 00:28:06,880
people just

729
00:28:10,470 --> 00:28:09,679
won't talk about it uh i really don't

730
00:28:14,230 --> 00:28:10,480
know but

731
00:28:16,230 --> 00:28:14,240
i would love to get my hands on more

732
00:28:18,389 --> 00:28:16,240
more you know information and sightings

733
00:28:19,410 --> 00:28:18,399
about dog man i i would love to know

734
00:28:22,149 --> 00:28:19,420
more

735
00:28:24,710 --> 00:28:22,159
[Music]

736
00:28:26,470 --> 00:28:24,720
i'll be happy yeah i've been getting

737
00:28:29,750 --> 00:28:26,480
sightings down louisiana

738
00:28:32,149 --> 00:28:29,760
and um and

739
00:28:35,190 --> 00:28:32,159
alabama for the most part i mean it kind

740
00:28:37,110 --> 00:28:35,200
of got you surrounded so

741
00:28:39,269 --> 00:28:37,120
uh yeah definitely if i get any

742
00:28:40,549 --> 00:28:39,279
information i mean i have had people

743
00:28:43,110 --> 00:28:40,559
tell me about

744
00:28:45,269 --> 00:28:43,120
uh dogman upright canines in mississippi

745
00:28:49,430 --> 00:28:45,279
but i just haven't really gotten

746
00:28:51,750 --> 00:28:49,440
any accounts that i can really count on

747
00:28:52,710 --> 00:28:51,760
uh yeah i get anything down there you're

748
00:28:54,710 --> 00:28:52,720
definitely getting them

749
00:28:56,830 --> 00:28:54,720
i mean i see mississippi it's going to

750
00:28:59,029 --> 00:28:56,840
markets

751
00:29:02,389 --> 00:28:59,039
so well you know

752
00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:02,399
the uh i think you just recently

753
00:29:06,549 --> 00:29:04,960
i'm not sure i know recently you talked

754
00:29:09,669 --> 00:29:06,559
to dark waters right

755
00:29:13,830 --> 00:29:09,679
you know the radio

756
00:29:16,549 --> 00:29:13,840
uh well now he has an incredible

757
00:29:17,909 --> 00:29:16,559
uh dog man story that was from his

758
00:29:21,110 --> 00:29:17,919
childhood

759
00:29:24,230 --> 00:29:21,120
uh and at one point he even had uh

760
00:29:26,070 --> 00:29:24,240
an encounter himself and this occurred

761
00:29:27,669 --> 00:29:26,080
on the outskirts of a little town in

762
00:29:31,190 --> 00:29:27,679
mississippi called taylor's

763
00:29:34,149 --> 00:29:31,200
mississippi and uh

764
00:29:35,830 --> 00:29:34,159
you know i i mean just hearing what

765
00:29:38,630 --> 00:29:35,840
happened to him

766
00:29:39,029 --> 00:29:38,640
will send chills up your up your spine

767
00:29:41,669 --> 00:29:39,039
so

768
00:29:42,470 --> 00:29:41,679
uh taylor mississippi seems to be on the

769
00:29:45,990 --> 00:29:42,480
map

770
00:29:50,310 --> 00:29:46,000
as far as dog man goes but beyond that

771
00:29:53,750 --> 00:29:51,909
yeah i think i got an account from

772
00:29:53,990 --> 00:29:53,760
taylor mississippi as well be honest

773
00:29:58,470 --> 00:29:54,000
with

774
00:30:03,029 --> 00:29:58,480
you um i had to dig it up for you

775
00:30:07,029 --> 00:30:05,269
yeah i i don't know i you know i i'm

776
00:30:10,310 --> 00:30:07,039
trying to remember that story that

777
00:30:12,870 --> 00:30:10,320
that uh james dark waters

778
00:30:13,510 --> 00:30:12,880
mentioned and i i do know he had a real

779
00:30:17,750 --> 00:30:13,520
horrific

780
00:30:19,510 --> 00:30:17,760
encounter at one point but um

781
00:30:24,070 --> 00:30:19,520
anyway you know i don't i don't know

782
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:28,070
what's that

783
00:30:31,909 --> 00:30:30,310
i think it was him and a friend of his

784
00:30:34,950 --> 00:30:31,919
who worked for the uh

785
00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:34,960
the local power company uh oh

786
00:30:38,230 --> 00:30:36,480
okay you know he's been hearing about

787
00:30:39,909 --> 00:30:38,240
you know dog

788
00:30:41,510 --> 00:30:39,919
you know being out in this area so he

789
00:30:43,830 --> 00:30:41,520
rode out with this guy who was with the

790
00:30:49,029 --> 00:30:43,840
power company and uh

791
00:30:52,870 --> 00:30:51,990
well you know you know that james is out

792
00:30:56,310 --> 00:30:52,880
he's got uh

793
00:31:00,149 --> 00:30:56,320
dog man cam's now a new website and

794
00:31:03,190 --> 00:31:00,159
he is he's actually out there

795
00:31:06,230 --> 00:31:03,200
uh setting up trail cams

796
00:31:11,269 --> 00:31:06,240
to capture dogman

797
00:31:14,549 --> 00:31:13,590
so uh i don't know i mean i i hope it

798
00:31:16,789 --> 00:31:14,559
works out for him

799
00:31:19,750 --> 00:31:16,799
i'm i'm kind of helping him out with it

800
00:31:22,870 --> 00:31:19,760
and i'm doing some advisor

801
00:31:24,070 --> 00:31:22,880
stuff with it with him for it so do you

802
00:31:26,149 --> 00:31:24,080
think it's going to work

803
00:31:27,830 --> 00:31:26,159
lon i mean the what what are the odds

804
00:31:29,590 --> 00:31:27,840
like you know they did that with bigfoot

805
00:31:31,509 --> 00:31:29,600
in the past remember they've had those

806
00:31:34,149 --> 00:31:31,519
big jams and

807
00:31:34,710 --> 00:31:34,159
it doesn't hurt to try right i just i

808
00:31:36,630 --> 00:31:34,720
don't know

809
00:31:37,990 --> 00:31:36,640
like that's why we do what we do my

810
00:31:40,630 --> 00:31:38,000
friend i mean i don't know

811
00:31:42,230 --> 00:31:40,640
i i don't i don't really know if it will

812
00:31:44,230 --> 00:31:42,240
work but then again

813
00:31:47,509 --> 00:31:44,240
i believe me if he gets one he's gonna

814
00:31:50,630 --> 00:31:47,519
let everybody know about it

815
00:31:54,070 --> 00:31:53,350
but uh no i uh we'll have to wait and

816
00:31:58,470 --> 00:31:54,080
see

817
00:32:02,070 --> 00:31:58,480
there was one captured on

818
00:32:04,950 --> 00:32:02,080
camera down in uh

819
00:32:06,149 --> 00:32:04,960
down in florida on with titusville or

820
00:32:10,710 --> 00:32:06,159
fort pierce

821
00:32:15,990 --> 00:32:10,720
video to

822
00:32:17,750 --> 00:32:16,000
uh to james and i looked at it

823
00:32:19,590 --> 00:32:17,760
because he's got it up on he's got it up

824
00:32:21,509 --> 00:32:19,600
on his youtube channel

825
00:32:22,789 --> 00:32:21,519
i don't know what the hell that was but

826
00:32:25,669 --> 00:32:22,799
boy did it look like

827
00:32:27,269 --> 00:32:25,679
an upright canine i mean it really did i

828
00:32:29,909 --> 00:32:27,279
mean it was a dark and it was

829
00:32:32,950 --> 00:32:29,919
more shadow than anything else but man i

830
00:32:36,870 --> 00:32:32,960
mean the outline was very interesting so

831
00:32:39,830 --> 00:32:36,880
that kind of sparked him and now he's uh

832
00:32:41,110 --> 00:32:39,840
he's he's renting these trail cams and

833
00:32:42,870 --> 00:32:41,120
stuff and

834
00:32:45,269 --> 00:32:42,880
going and setting them up all over the

835
00:32:47,110 --> 00:32:45,279
place down south so

836
00:32:48,630 --> 00:32:47,120
how do they how do they connect i mean i

837
00:32:49,990 --> 00:32:48,640
guess that may be technical talk we

838
00:32:53,029 --> 00:32:50,000
could talk about

839
00:32:55,590 --> 00:32:53,039
off the air but yeah yeah

840
00:32:57,269 --> 00:32:55,600
i think it's all wi-fi i mean i think he

841
00:32:59,669 --> 00:32:57,279
it's all wi-fi

842
00:33:01,669 --> 00:32:59,679
uh however he's got it hooked up to

843
00:33:03,029 --> 00:33:01,679
whatever servers or whatever it's got

844
00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:03,039
doing going on there

845
00:33:07,909 --> 00:33:05,760
i don't know i mean because you know we

846
00:33:10,230 --> 00:33:07,919
thought about doing something like this

847
00:33:11,350 --> 00:33:10,240
uh over the summer setting up a fake

848
00:33:13,669 --> 00:33:11,360
kind of camp

849
00:33:15,509 --> 00:33:13,679
and then a blind and actually staying in

850
00:33:18,870 --> 00:33:15,519
the blind and having all this stuff

851
00:33:20,310 --> 00:33:18,880
run uh through wires to like a camera

852
00:33:22,149 --> 00:33:20,320
system and having it up there for a

853
00:33:23,509 --> 00:33:22,159
while like with rotating people going in

854
00:33:26,230 --> 00:33:23,519
and out to kind of man it

855
00:33:27,509 --> 00:33:26,240
but it's a lot of tech and a lot of

856
00:33:29,029 --> 00:33:27,519
man-hours and just how

857
00:33:32,470 --> 00:33:29,039
you know the technical ability to pull

858
00:33:34,310 --> 00:33:32,480
it all together is pretty damn amazing

859
00:33:36,149 --> 00:33:34,320
it takes a lot of work and dedication to

860
00:33:39,830 --> 00:33:36,159
do that yeah that's right

861
00:33:43,430 --> 00:33:39,840
and uh we'll see that's all i could say

862
00:33:44,630 --> 00:33:43,440
so um hey folks if you got a question

863
00:33:47,590 --> 00:33:44,640
just go ahead and

864
00:33:47,990 --> 00:33:47,600
type it into the uh the chat and we'll

865
00:33:50,389 --> 00:33:48,000
see

866
00:33:51,430 --> 00:33:50,399
uh if we can all answer for you

867
00:33:54,149 --> 00:33:51,440
somebody's asked about

868
00:33:55,430 --> 00:33:54,159
goblin sightings any goblin sightings i

869
00:33:56,630 --> 00:33:55,440
guess this is the time of year for

870
00:33:58,710 --> 00:33:56,640
goblins so

871
00:34:00,710 --> 00:33:58,720
only me at dinner time when i'm gobbling

872
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:00,720
down my food goblin

873
00:34:04,830 --> 00:34:03,690
wow that was a bad joke

874
00:34:08,149 --> 00:34:04,840
[Music]

875
00:34:11,349 --> 00:34:09,750
you know what though have you watched

876
00:34:13,750 --> 00:34:11,359
the uh hellier

877
00:34:14,629 --> 00:34:13,760
series i didn't watch it it's

878
00:34:16,230 --> 00:34:14,639
interesting

879
00:34:17,669 --> 00:34:16,240
now you could draw all kinds of

880
00:34:19,589 --> 00:34:17,679
conclusions it's just

881
00:34:21,669 --> 00:34:19,599
it's something else man just bringing up

882
00:34:23,430 --> 00:34:21,679
goblins what is that uh

883
00:34:25,589 --> 00:34:23,440
the name of that town oh hell here but

884
00:34:27,510 --> 00:34:25,599
uh the hopkinsville goblin

885
00:34:29,109 --> 00:34:27,520
hopkins real thing yeah we're gonna do

886
00:34:31,109 --> 00:34:29,119
we're gonna eventually do um

887
00:34:32,470 --> 00:34:31,119
yeah we're gonna do a documentary about

888
00:34:35,669 --> 00:34:32,480
that over here

889
00:34:38,950 --> 00:34:35,679
that's cool yeah so i'm i'm i've got

890
00:34:40,629 --> 00:34:38,960
just i'm working on the script now but

891
00:34:42,389 --> 00:34:40,639
we're we're doing all kinds of different

892
00:34:46,310 --> 00:34:42,399
things anything involving caves just

893
00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:49,510
well you know we do believe that the

894
00:34:53,430 --> 00:34:51,520
caves have a lot to do with the evol

895
00:34:55,909 --> 00:34:53,440
i mean you are involved with a lot of

896
00:34:58,150 --> 00:34:55,919
the upright canine settings here in

897
00:35:00,470 --> 00:34:58,160
pennsylvania so

898
00:35:01,510 --> 00:35:00,480
coal mines abandoned mines like all that

899
00:35:05,030 --> 00:35:01,520
stuff man

900
00:35:07,430 --> 00:35:05,040
this state's littered with them and it's

901
00:35:08,950 --> 00:35:07,440
who knows we really don't know and for

902
00:35:10,230 --> 00:35:08,960
years that's been speculation on the

903
00:35:13,349 --> 00:35:10,240
bigfoot stuff too

904
00:35:14,230 --> 00:35:13,359
right and sure so i mean it does make

905
00:35:16,790 --> 00:35:14,240
sense it is

906
00:35:19,030 --> 00:35:16,800
easily accessible shelter and

907
00:35:21,589 --> 00:35:19,040
subterranean access

908
00:35:22,790 --> 00:35:21,599
who knows i'm not brave enough to go in

909
00:35:25,270 --> 00:35:22,800
and try one

910
00:35:25,829 --> 00:35:25,280
and you know given my level of physical

911
00:35:27,190 --> 00:35:25,839
fitness

912
00:35:31,829 --> 00:35:27,200
i i don't know how many of those places

913
00:35:33,349 --> 00:35:31,839
i'd actually fit in yeah right

914
00:35:35,430 --> 00:35:33,359
well i'm in the same boat with you my

915
00:35:38,710 --> 00:35:35,440
friend um

916
00:35:41,430 --> 00:35:38,720
well you know now now butch you know

917
00:35:42,710 --> 00:35:41,440
the caves are just loaded in this state

918
00:35:46,710 --> 00:35:42,720
let alone

919
00:35:49,829 --> 00:35:46,720
all the abandoned government facilities

920
00:35:51,990 --> 00:35:49,839
here in pennsylvania as well uh

921
00:35:53,510 --> 00:35:52,000
you know especially from the war i mean

922
00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:53,520
from the world war ii

923
00:35:57,109 --> 00:35:55,680
they had all these munition areas here

924
00:35:58,470 --> 00:35:57,119
in the state of pennsylvania just

925
00:36:00,069 --> 00:35:58,480
abandoned now

926
00:36:01,589 --> 00:36:00,079
uh i think there's a place up there

927
00:36:02,710 --> 00:36:01,599
where you got where you're from up in

928
00:36:04,790 --> 00:36:02,720
williamsport

929
00:36:05,829 --> 00:36:04,800
that's uh either an old town or an old

930
00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:05,839
facility that

931
00:36:10,390 --> 00:36:08,640
is it's got a whole history has a lot of

932
00:36:12,630 --> 00:36:10,400
bigfoot activity as well

933
00:36:13,589 --> 00:36:12,640
yeah there's three cemeteries there too

934
00:36:16,950 --> 00:36:13,599
one of them i think

935
00:36:19,430 --> 00:36:16,960
is revolutionary war

936
00:36:20,390 --> 00:36:19,440
era and forward like it's it's got some

937
00:36:23,990 --> 00:36:20,400
history there

938
00:36:25,030 --> 00:36:24,000
it's the former town of alvira alvira

939
00:36:26,870 --> 00:36:25,040
that was taken

940
00:36:28,470 --> 00:36:26,880
by eminent domain by the government

941
00:36:30,069 --> 00:36:28,480
world war ii and it wasn't a booming

942
00:36:32,950 --> 00:36:30,079
metropolis by any means

943
00:36:33,910 --> 00:36:32,960
but it was a town people lived there and

944
00:36:35,750 --> 00:36:33,920
over the years

945
00:36:38,310 --> 00:36:35,760
it became one of those ammunitions

946
00:36:40,870 --> 00:36:38,320
facility a tnt factory it borders the

947
00:36:41,910 --> 00:36:40,880
allenwood federal penitentiary so it

948
00:36:44,470 --> 00:36:41,920
sure there's a

949
00:36:45,430 --> 00:36:44,480
it actually shares border wall within a

950
00:36:47,510 --> 00:36:45,440
fence

951
00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:47,520
i've been in that one cemetery and with

952
00:36:51,030 --> 00:36:49,200
my night vision camera

953
00:36:52,630 --> 00:36:51,040
my old sony handycam you could actually

954
00:36:56,150 --> 00:36:52,640
see these scope

955
00:36:57,510 --> 00:36:56,160
lasers from the uh feds pointing at us

956
00:36:59,589 --> 00:36:57,520
into the cemetery to see what we're

957
00:37:01,349 --> 00:36:59,599
doing looking through their scopes

958
00:37:03,109 --> 00:37:01,359
uh at us so it's a it's a pretty

959
00:37:04,069 --> 00:37:03,119
interesting place but over the years

960
00:37:06,069 --> 00:37:04,079
it's had

961
00:37:08,069 --> 00:37:06,079
some really uh interesting paranormal

962
00:37:10,310 --> 00:37:08,079
activity there and i wonder like does

963
00:37:11,829 --> 00:37:10,320
that share commonalities with the tnt

964
00:37:14,870 --> 00:37:11,839
area in point pleasant

965
00:37:19,349 --> 00:37:16,470
i was thinking the same thing which is

966
00:37:22,390 --> 00:37:19,359
funny i just got a question here from uh

967
00:37:25,030 --> 00:37:22,400
from ross do you

968
00:37:25,750 --> 00:37:25,040
blonde do you prioritize wing humanoid

969
00:37:28,470 --> 00:37:25,760
reports

970
00:37:30,390 --> 00:37:28,480
for over others no i really don't but i

971
00:37:30,710 --> 00:37:30,400
tell you when i get a report on one i'm

972
00:37:33,910 --> 00:37:30,720
i'm

973
00:37:35,670 --> 00:37:33,920
on it um you know

974
00:37:37,750 --> 00:37:35,680
you know this is something that we've

975
00:37:39,349 --> 00:37:37,760
really been working on for the last

976
00:37:41,349 --> 00:37:39,359
couple years

977
00:37:43,829 --> 00:37:41,359
and of course you know your friends is

978
00:37:44,950 --> 00:37:43,839
seth and he's been doing all the walkman

979
00:37:47,430 --> 00:37:44,960
stuff

980
00:37:49,349 --> 00:37:47,440
in recent years and there does seem to

981
00:37:52,790 --> 00:37:49,359
be more of a focus

982
00:37:55,030 --> 00:37:52,800
on mothman and winged humanoids so um

983
00:37:56,230 --> 00:37:55,040
you know i i i guess more people are

984
00:37:59,430 --> 00:37:56,240
much more aware of

985
00:38:02,150 --> 00:37:59,440
what the phenomena is now uh

986
00:38:04,069 --> 00:38:02,160
so i wouldn't say we prioritize it but

987
00:38:06,950 --> 00:38:04,079
yeah when we get it we're looking into

988
00:38:08,069 --> 00:38:06,960
it i kind of try to stay out of the

989
00:38:09,829 --> 00:38:08,079
flavor of the week

990
00:38:11,510 --> 00:38:09,839
with the cryptids you know because i

991
00:38:13,670 --> 00:38:11,520
think

992
00:38:15,670 --> 00:38:13,680
it becomes too easy for people to start

993
00:38:17,990 --> 00:38:15,680
contaminating it

994
00:38:20,390 --> 00:38:18,000
even with other researchers lon like

995
00:38:21,750 --> 00:38:20,400
it's it's hard to

996
00:38:24,630 --> 00:38:21,760
not that you ever want to restrict

997
00:38:26,550 --> 00:38:24,640
access to people but sometimes

998
00:38:27,670 --> 00:38:26,560
access needs to be restricted just so

999
00:38:30,150 --> 00:38:27,680
it's not

1000
00:38:32,390 --> 00:38:30,160
contaminated or just over saturated and

1001
00:38:33,910 --> 00:38:32,400
and it happens it happens in every field

1002
00:38:35,910 --> 00:38:33,920
if i get a bigfoot sighting i'm not

1003
00:38:37,589 --> 00:38:35,920
telling 42 people to go out there and

1004
00:38:40,630 --> 00:38:37,599
traipse along with it you know i want to

1005
00:38:43,670 --> 00:38:40,640
keep it uh its integrity is intact

1006
00:38:45,030 --> 00:38:43,680
as much as possible so uh

1007
00:38:46,710 --> 00:38:45,040
it's just one of those things like the

1008
00:38:48,069 --> 00:38:46,720
more popular it becomes sometimes the

1009
00:38:51,589 --> 00:38:48,079
less interested i am

1010
00:38:53,750 --> 00:38:51,599
in the moment catalog it check it out

1011
00:38:57,109 --> 00:38:53,760
and then you know follow up on it later

1012
00:38:59,750 --> 00:38:57,119
yeah yeah well i agree with you there

1013
00:39:01,670 --> 00:38:59,760
yeah you know and you know when we've

1014
00:39:03,910 --> 00:39:01,680
been doing this thing in chicago i i was

1015
00:39:06,310 --> 00:39:03,920
kind of worried about that

1016
00:39:08,069 --> 00:39:06,320
uh though i don't think that has really

1017
00:39:09,910 --> 00:39:08,079
become a problem

1018
00:39:11,270 --> 00:39:09,920
because uh of course we're gonna get

1019
00:39:14,470 --> 00:39:11,280
sightings that are just

1020
00:39:17,829 --> 00:39:14,480
definitely you know um

1021
00:39:21,109 --> 00:39:17,839
implausible i will say one thing if

1022
00:39:23,030 --> 00:39:21,119
it was as crazy as i thought it would be

1023
00:39:24,310 --> 00:39:23,040
i don't think you'd be able to catch up

1024
00:39:27,030 --> 00:39:24,320
with all the bigfoot or

1025
00:39:28,390 --> 00:39:27,040
all the mothman sightings if it was more

1026
00:39:29,190 --> 00:39:28,400
of a hoax do you know what i'm trying to

1027
00:39:32,390 --> 00:39:29,200
say

1028
00:39:34,550 --> 00:39:32,400
like if it was as popular as

1029
00:39:35,829 --> 00:39:34,560
it was supposed to be like you guys

1030
00:39:37,270 --> 00:39:35,839
wouldn't be able to catch up to the

1031
00:39:38,630 --> 00:39:37,280
paperwork like everybody and their

1032
00:39:42,069 --> 00:39:38,640
brother would be reporting something

1033
00:39:44,470 --> 00:39:42,079
every time they saw it in the sky

1034
00:39:46,470 --> 00:39:44,480
well that's the surprising thing i think

1035
00:39:47,270 --> 00:39:46,480
as far as what we've been dealing with

1036
00:39:50,470 --> 00:39:47,280
out there is

1037
00:39:52,870 --> 00:39:50,480
uh the sightings are

1038
00:39:53,589 --> 00:39:52,880
the witnesses are believable i mean and

1039
00:39:55,430 --> 00:39:53,599
they're

1040
00:39:56,870 --> 00:39:55,440
you know you've been doing this long

1041
00:40:00,150 --> 00:39:56,880
enough to know when you get a

1042
00:40:01,589 --> 00:40:00,160
report from somebody and it's crap

1043
00:40:03,190 --> 00:40:01,599
i mean you're gonna be able to sniff

1044
00:40:05,430 --> 00:40:03,200
that out pretty quick

1045
00:40:07,109 --> 00:40:05,440
well the guy i talked to bill one of the

1046
00:40:09,589 --> 00:40:07,119
first ones lon

1047
00:40:11,829 --> 00:40:09,599
like i found him to be the delivery

1048
00:40:15,510 --> 00:40:11,839
driver i found him to be

1049
00:40:17,109 --> 00:40:15,520
incredibly truthful and legitimate i

1050
00:40:18,870 --> 00:40:17,119
only ever investigated him just being

1051
00:40:20,790 --> 00:40:18,880
completely transparent i only ever

1052
00:40:22,550 --> 00:40:20,800
investigated that one with you i didn't

1053
00:40:24,470 --> 00:40:22,560
get to go out there to chicago because

1054
00:40:27,190 --> 00:40:24,480
we ain't living close to it

1055
00:40:30,309 --> 00:40:27,200
uh but i found him you know based

1056
00:40:33,510 --> 00:40:30,319
conversation be a very truthful person

1057
00:40:34,710 --> 00:40:33,520
oh yeah billy bands yeah he was very and

1058
00:40:37,430 --> 00:40:34,720
you know he has

1059
00:40:38,790 --> 00:40:37,440
physical problems because of it and

1060
00:40:40,230 --> 00:40:38,800
that's documented

1061
00:40:42,150 --> 00:40:40,240
through his doctor and everything so

1062
00:40:45,670 --> 00:40:42,160
yeah he's very credible

1063
00:40:48,870 --> 00:40:45,680
uh and you know i gotta say a a good

1064
00:40:52,150 --> 00:40:48,880
number of the witnesses were like that

1065
00:40:54,870 --> 00:40:52,160
uh you know they were coming up with

1066
00:40:56,550 --> 00:40:54,880
details that we just didn't publicize

1067
00:40:59,270 --> 00:40:56,560
that much

1068
00:41:00,069 --> 00:40:59,280
and of course there were a few uh

1069
00:41:01,750 --> 00:41:00,079
differences

1070
00:41:04,630 --> 00:41:01,760
and you know just made it part of the

1071
00:41:08,790 --> 00:41:07,030
you know have you seen mothman legacy

1072
00:41:11,109 --> 00:41:08,800
yet

1073
00:41:12,790 --> 00:41:11,119
uh yeah you know what i kind of found

1074
00:41:14,069 --> 00:41:12,800
really remarkable from that is that

1075
00:41:15,589 --> 00:41:14,079
after all these years there was stuff

1076
00:41:17,430 --> 00:41:15,599
about that i didn't know

1077
00:41:18,710 --> 00:41:17,440
yeah they watched the mothman legacy

1078
00:41:21,430 --> 00:41:18,720
like i didn't know

1079
00:41:21,990 --> 00:41:21,440
sightings happened before scarberry you

1080
00:41:24,470 --> 00:41:22,000
know that

1081
00:41:26,069 --> 00:41:24,480
that event i didn't know uh some of the

1082
00:41:26,710 --> 00:41:26,079
things that happened i didn't know about

1083
00:41:28,630 --> 00:41:26,720
uh

1084
00:41:30,309 --> 00:41:28,640
you know the information from the 70s

1085
00:41:31,750 --> 00:41:30,319
from the newspaper reporter like all

1086
00:41:33,109 --> 00:41:31,760
that was fresh to me

1087
00:41:34,790 --> 00:41:33,119
it's a good documentary i encourage

1088
00:41:36,630 --> 00:41:34,800
people to check it out mothman legacy

1089
00:41:40,150 --> 00:41:36,640
it's on every streaming platform

1090
00:41:41,109 --> 00:41:40,160
uh cheap plug but uh it was really

1091
00:41:42,630 --> 00:41:41,119
insightful

1092
00:41:45,030 --> 00:41:42,640
i mean it showed a lot and it kind of

1093
00:41:47,349 --> 00:41:45,040
gives me parallel to some of these other

1094
00:41:49,510 --> 00:41:47,359
you know winged you know humanoid

1095
00:41:51,589 --> 00:41:49,520
sightings even that have happened before

1096
00:41:52,790 --> 00:41:51,599
chicago because there have been reports

1097
00:41:55,990 --> 00:41:52,800
of these for

1098
00:41:56,950 --> 00:41:56,000
for some time uh i mean our our friend

1099
00:41:59,030 --> 00:41:56,960
uh

1100
00:42:00,870 --> 00:41:59,040
alberto i mean look at all his books

1101
00:42:02,470 --> 00:42:00,880
that he's written on wing humanoids

1102
00:42:05,030 --> 00:42:02,480
through uh

1103
00:42:07,030 --> 00:42:05,040
uh through the years you know how many

1104
00:42:11,109 --> 00:42:07,040
books has he written like 23 of them now

1105
00:42:14,069 --> 00:42:11,119
on the albert yeah yeah yeah yeah

1106
00:42:15,990 --> 00:42:14,079
next week actually yeah albert and jack

1107
00:42:19,750 --> 00:42:16,000
here are going to come on next week

1108
00:42:22,950 --> 00:42:19,760
and do a round table with me but um

1109
00:42:25,829 --> 00:42:22,960
yeah i mean i hatched seth on

1110
00:42:27,510 --> 00:42:25,839
three weeks ago and we played the

1111
00:42:29,750 --> 00:42:27,520
trailer and everything for the uh

1112
00:42:31,190 --> 00:42:29,760
for the film but it is it's an excellent

1113
00:42:32,950 --> 00:42:31,200
film

1114
00:42:34,630 --> 00:42:32,960
yeah there's a lot i tell you that's the

1115
00:42:35,990 --> 00:42:34,640
one thing about this phenomena you know

1116
00:42:37,589 --> 00:42:36,000
people think you know the story

1117
00:42:39,990 --> 00:42:37,599
a moth man but there's something you

1118
00:42:40,870 --> 00:42:40,000
always learn about it and uh you know

1119
00:42:44,069 --> 00:42:40,880
the lore

1120
00:42:48,150 --> 00:42:44,079
itself is what fascinates me and

1121
00:42:50,630 --> 00:42:48,160
um yeah it's it's a very good uh

1122
00:42:53,430 --> 00:42:50,640
it's a very good film got a question

1123
00:42:56,550 --> 00:42:53,440
here from dorian james elon do you think

1124
00:42:59,589 --> 00:42:56,560
dog man is responsible for some of

1125
00:43:02,150 --> 00:42:59,599
the missing people

1126
00:43:03,589 --> 00:43:02,160
they uh they think they they think it is

1127
00:43:05,030 --> 00:43:03,599
true and the government knows about

1128
00:43:08,069 --> 00:43:05,040
these beings

1129
00:43:13,829 --> 00:43:11,349
that's possible you know we um

1130
00:43:16,950 --> 00:43:13,839
i mean going back as far as we did into

1131
00:43:19,910 --> 00:43:16,960
the mid-1800s on these things

1132
00:43:20,630 --> 00:43:19,920
i mean we found some cases where you

1133
00:43:24,150 --> 00:43:20,640
know people

1134
00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:24,160
were attacked but not killed uh

1135
00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:26,400
on some cases where the dog men were

1136
00:43:35,820 --> 00:43:34,150
there we have 39 missing persons reports

1137
00:43:38,069 --> 00:43:35,830
here in pennsylvania

1138
00:43:41,270 --> 00:43:38,079
[Music]

1139
00:43:42,710 --> 00:43:41,280
that are unsolved uh

1140
00:43:44,470 --> 00:43:42,720
the couple that were solved were

1141
00:43:46,230 --> 00:43:44,480
basically older gentlemen that were out

1142
00:43:48,550 --> 00:43:46,240
hunting and just you know overdid their

1143
00:43:52,829 --> 00:43:48,560
heart ratio

1144
00:43:57,990 --> 00:43:55,829
yeah but possible

1145
00:44:00,470 --> 00:43:58,000
you know i kind of waver both ways on

1146
00:44:02,550 --> 00:44:00,480
that because of

1147
00:44:03,510 --> 00:44:02,560
you know it could be a lot of things

1148
00:44:09,670 --> 00:44:03,520
that would take you

1149
00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:09,680
in the woods you know a bear cougar uh

1150
00:44:13,270 --> 00:44:11,280
uh remember the whack job that was

1151
00:44:15,910 --> 00:44:13,280
killing people up on appalachian trail i

1152
00:44:18,230 --> 00:44:15,920
mean so it doesn't have to be anything

1153
00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:18,240
they could just be a human but i don't

1154
00:44:22,630 --> 00:44:20,400
know there's just not enough

1155
00:44:23,750 --> 00:44:22,640
i think when people get into the realm

1156
00:44:30,550 --> 00:44:23,760
of

1157
00:44:31,109 --> 00:44:30,560
rakes or whatever their whole mindset

1158
00:44:34,870 --> 00:44:31,119
changes

1159
00:44:38,150 --> 00:44:34,880
as far as investigators you know they

1160
00:44:40,069 --> 00:44:38,160
they don't go at it step by step to take

1161
00:44:44,470 --> 00:44:40,079
it at its worst

1162
00:44:47,030 --> 00:44:44,480
like uh the lady in north carolina um

1163
00:44:51,270 --> 00:44:47,040
it's a year now i guess that was

1164
00:44:53,270 --> 00:44:51,280
attacked a 77 year old school teacher

1165
00:44:55,430 --> 00:44:53,280
she was attacked by walking her dogs

1166
00:44:57,030 --> 00:44:55,440
dogs were fine she was shredded

1167
00:44:58,630 --> 00:44:57,040
all the dna testing and all the

1168
00:45:00,710 --> 00:44:58,640
information they had they're still it's

1169
00:45:04,150 --> 00:45:00,720
still an open investigation

1170
00:45:06,710 --> 00:45:04,160
they have not found anything

1171
00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:06,720
that corresponds uh with the type of

1172
00:45:10,470 --> 00:45:08,400
wounds that she suffered

1173
00:45:12,230 --> 00:45:10,480
nor have they connected any dna hair

1174
00:45:15,990 --> 00:45:12,240
samples or anything else

1175
00:45:19,190 --> 00:45:16,000
and they did dna testing on

1176
00:45:22,710 --> 00:45:19,200
i believe it was 14 local uh

1177
00:45:25,270 --> 00:45:22,720
pets dogs some very large and

1178
00:45:25,829 --> 00:45:25,280
they all had the dna of a canine but

1179
00:45:29,750 --> 00:45:25,839
they had

1180
00:45:32,950 --> 00:45:29,760
no such dna from her she wasn't eaten

1181
00:45:34,630 --> 00:45:32,960
so it's not a bear um or

1182
00:45:36,870 --> 00:45:34,640
uh you know she wasn't she wasn't

1183
00:45:39,670 --> 00:45:36,880
dragged away so it wasn't a cougar

1184
00:45:41,430 --> 00:45:39,680
panther or anything like that so to the

1185
00:45:43,589 --> 00:45:41,440
state they have no clue what killed that

1186
00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:43,599
woman but she was shredded

1187
00:45:48,710 --> 00:45:46,720
just uh even the ambulance even the

1188
00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:48,720
ambulance personnel and the one sheriff

1189
00:45:52,390 --> 00:45:50,480
that i got to talk to

1190
00:45:54,950 --> 00:45:52,400
he said you wouldn't believe what she

1191
00:45:56,470 --> 00:45:54,960
looked like he said just like

1192
00:45:59,349 --> 00:45:56,480
you know she went through a machine a

1193
00:46:01,349 --> 00:45:59,359
grinder and

1194
00:46:03,430 --> 00:46:01,359
she didn't put up any fight and there

1195
00:46:08,230 --> 00:46:03,440
were no parts missing

1196
00:46:10,069 --> 00:46:08,240
so who knows what's out there

1197
00:46:11,670 --> 00:46:10,079
like sean said you know pennsylvania we

1198
00:46:13,270 --> 00:46:11,680
have caves all over the place we have

1199
00:46:16,069 --> 00:46:13,280
abandoned towns

1200
00:46:17,190 --> 00:46:16,079
we have abandoned military facilities we

1201
00:46:18,950 --> 00:46:17,200
have abandoned

1202
00:46:22,150 --> 00:46:18,960
warehouses buildings they're all over

1203
00:46:25,829 --> 00:46:22,160
the state abandoned railroad stations

1204
00:46:27,030 --> 00:46:25,839
i mean something wants to go hide

1205
00:46:29,349 --> 00:46:27,040
somewhere

1206
00:46:31,349 --> 00:46:29,359
i find it strange that people will go

1207
00:46:32,710 --> 00:46:31,359
out and

1208
00:46:34,470 --> 00:46:32,720
you know they'll spend the whole day

1209
00:46:37,510 --> 00:46:34,480
walking around the place

1210
00:46:38,790 --> 00:46:37,520
but they won't go into a building or you

1211
00:46:41,349 --> 00:46:38,800
know check out a building

1212
00:46:42,710 --> 00:46:41,359
or now i'm not talking about caves

1213
00:46:44,470 --> 00:46:42,720
that's a whole different thing

1214
00:46:46,150 --> 00:46:44,480
uh we have a lot of equipment to do that

1215
00:46:48,470 --> 00:46:46,160
but uh

1216
00:46:49,750 --> 00:46:48,480
you know even gas analyzers because you

1217
00:46:51,109 --> 00:46:49,760
don't know what kind of gas is in the

1218
00:46:54,790 --> 00:46:51,119
cave

1219
00:46:55,349 --> 00:46:54,800
so uh but you know when you look at some

1220
00:46:57,990 --> 00:46:55,359
of these

1221
00:46:59,030 --> 00:46:58,000
old abandoned uh track stations that

1222
00:47:00,390 --> 00:46:59,040
they call them where one

1223
00:47:02,870 --> 00:47:00,400
crew would get off another crew would

1224
00:47:04,470 --> 00:47:02,880
get on to continue their out

1225
00:47:06,550 --> 00:47:04,480
i mean they have everything they have

1226
00:47:07,829 --> 00:47:06,560
very large basements they're normally

1227
00:47:10,630 --> 00:47:07,839
two stories they're

1228
00:47:11,589 --> 00:47:10,640
huge inside uh they're out of the

1229
00:47:15,190 --> 00:47:11,599
weather

1230
00:47:16,390 --> 00:47:15,200
you know uh they're all boarded up

1231
00:47:17,750 --> 00:47:16,400
some of them are boarded up but you can

1232
00:47:19,109 --> 00:47:17,760
open the door and walk right in i don't

1233
00:47:20,630 --> 00:47:19,119
know who did the board up job but he

1234
00:47:22,309 --> 00:47:20,640
really sucked

1235
00:47:23,990 --> 00:47:22,319
so i mean there's all kind of stuff out

1236
00:47:26,790 --> 00:47:24,000
there um right

1237
00:47:28,790 --> 00:47:26,800
and i i just started looking for the

1238
00:47:30,870 --> 00:47:28,800
things that shouldn't be there

1239
00:47:33,190 --> 00:47:30,880
that's what i want to see i want to see

1240
00:47:36,790 --> 00:47:33,200
the things that shouldn't be there

1241
00:47:38,710 --> 00:47:36,800
and um we'll see

1242
00:47:40,470 --> 00:47:38,720
this is whether you know we're going out

1243
00:47:41,829 --> 00:47:40,480
as soon as these leaves get off the

1244
00:47:42,790 --> 00:47:41,839
trees so we can get some cameras out

1245
00:47:45,910 --> 00:47:42,800
there

1246
00:47:49,750 --> 00:47:48,069
well we got a question here how about

1247
00:47:51,270 --> 00:47:49,760
for the sake of halloween what's the

1248
00:47:55,030 --> 00:47:51,280
scariest report

1249
00:48:00,230 --> 00:47:55,040
each of you have received so

1250
00:48:05,589 --> 00:48:03,270
well again i gotta i gotta go back to uh

1251
00:48:06,470 --> 00:48:05,599
you know the legend of hell's gate you

1252
00:48:09,670 --> 00:48:06,480
know here in

1253
00:48:11,190 --> 00:48:09,680
central mississippi uh me and another

1254
00:48:13,990 --> 00:48:11,200
researcher were

1255
00:48:14,549 --> 00:48:14,000
investigating uh one halloween night a

1256
00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:14,559
few

1257
00:48:21,589 --> 00:48:18,400
years ago and uh

1258
00:48:23,910 --> 00:48:21,599
we had gone out there looking for

1259
00:48:25,910 --> 00:48:23,920
potential bigfoot activity and i

1260
00:48:28,710 --> 00:48:25,920
definitely think we got it but

1261
00:48:30,549 --> 00:48:28,720
uh our first few minutes of being there

1262
00:48:32,710 --> 00:48:30,559
it was relatively quiet

1263
00:48:35,109 --> 00:48:32,720
we had been relatively quiet but i mean

1264
00:48:39,109 --> 00:48:35,119
we weren't just you know

1265
00:48:42,790 --> 00:48:39,119
running silent but after a while

1266
00:48:44,870 --> 00:48:42,800
i i had a led spotlight that i shined

1267
00:48:49,510 --> 00:48:44,880
out across the uh

1268
00:48:51,670 --> 00:48:49,520
the sunflower river and after i did that

1269
00:48:52,630 --> 00:48:51,680
i mean all hell broke loose i mean we

1270
00:49:03,750 --> 00:48:52,640
had

1271
00:49:05,349 --> 00:49:03,760
the sound of limbs breaking on top of

1272
00:49:09,190 --> 00:49:05,359
one of the mounds

1273
00:49:11,190 --> 00:49:09,200
uh i got hit with a rock

1274
00:49:13,589 --> 00:49:11,200
i mean something something threw a rock

1275
00:49:17,910 --> 00:49:13,599
and hit me got it on video

1276
00:49:18,870 --> 00:49:17,920
uh i mean and what was going on behind

1277
00:49:21,910 --> 00:49:18,880
us

1278
00:49:25,190 --> 00:49:21,920
uh we heard these i don't know

1279
00:49:27,670 --> 00:49:25,200
this was probably a coyote but

1280
00:49:29,109 --> 00:49:27,680
but all this stuff was going on at one

1281
00:49:32,390 --> 00:49:29,119
time

1282
00:49:33,990 --> 00:49:32,400
and you know it was it was pretty freaky

1283
00:49:38,470 --> 00:49:34,000
and

1284
00:49:41,270 --> 00:49:38,480
you know we we after so much of that

1285
00:49:43,670 --> 00:49:41,280
the old mind and the old common sense

1286
00:49:46,710 --> 00:49:43,680
kicks in and you're like you know

1287
00:49:47,349 --> 00:49:46,720
it's been real and it's been fun but

1288
00:49:49,270 --> 00:49:47,359
it's it's

1289
00:49:50,870 --> 00:49:49,280
it might be time to end the real fun and

1290
00:49:53,510 --> 00:49:50,880
get the heck out of here

1291
00:49:54,470 --> 00:49:53,520
so uh that was one of my halloween

1292
00:49:57,589 --> 00:49:54,480
nights at uh

1293
00:50:01,109 --> 00:49:57,599
at hills gate you know so

1294
00:50:05,990 --> 00:50:01,119
it was pretty pretty wild how are you

1295
00:50:11,829 --> 00:50:09,829
cool well i think you

1296
00:50:14,710 --> 00:50:11,839
you know the one i'd tell you was my own

1297
00:50:17,510 --> 00:50:14,720
experience out in clearfield

1298
00:50:18,150 --> 00:50:17,520
oh yeah and that had multiple witnesses

1299
00:50:21,349 --> 00:50:18,160
as well

1300
00:50:23,510 --> 00:50:21,359
uh me and two other gentlemen where this

1301
00:50:26,150 --> 00:50:23,520
thing kept disturbing us while we were

1302
00:50:27,829 --> 00:50:26,160
in our tent and it kept coming back uh

1303
00:50:29,270 --> 00:50:27,839
several times without me it's a very

1304
00:50:30,549 --> 00:50:29,280
long story and i've told it on the show

1305
00:50:33,589 --> 00:50:30,559
before

1306
00:50:36,069 --> 00:50:33,599
uh that was a pretty uh intense night

1307
00:50:37,349 --> 00:50:36,079
uh i mean other that i've experienced

1308
00:50:39,109 --> 00:50:37,359
personally

1309
00:50:40,549 --> 00:50:39,119
uh i would get this call from a

1310
00:50:42,950 --> 00:50:40,559
gentleman that lived out in the middle

1311
00:50:44,069 --> 00:50:42,960
of nowhere back in the early 2000s when

1312
00:50:47,430 --> 00:50:44,079
i just started

1313
00:50:50,790 --> 00:50:47,440
really getting into the research lawn

1314
00:50:53,190 --> 00:50:50,800
and uh one night i got a call at like

1315
00:50:55,030 --> 00:50:53,200
three in the morning my time

1316
00:50:56,790 --> 00:50:55,040
and this gentleman starts telling me

1317
00:50:58,710 --> 00:50:56,800
about these sounds he's hearing outside

1318
00:50:59,750 --> 00:50:58,720
his house and he stuck the phone out the

1319
00:51:03,109 --> 00:50:59,760
window

1320
00:51:04,390 --> 00:51:03,119
and you could hear these god forsaken

1321
00:51:07,190 --> 00:51:04,400
screams

1322
00:51:08,069 --> 00:51:07,200
that were coming from around his home

1323
00:51:10,630 --> 00:51:08,079
and uh

1324
00:51:12,630 --> 00:51:10,640
the phone went dead the one night uh in

1325
00:51:14,630 --> 00:51:12,640
the process of this and that was pretty

1326
00:51:16,630 --> 00:51:14,640
uh horrifying i don't even know what

1327
00:51:18,950 --> 00:51:16,640
happened to him i never looked into it

1328
00:51:20,230 --> 00:51:18,960
and never heard from him again but i

1329
00:51:22,230 --> 00:51:20,240
wish him well

1330
00:51:23,430 --> 00:51:22,240
i hope you're fine pal that was pretty

1331
00:51:25,430 --> 00:51:23,440
scary but my

1332
00:51:27,349 --> 00:51:25,440
own uh experience in clearfield and then

1333
00:51:29,510 --> 00:51:27,359
that always just terrified me this guy

1334
00:51:31,990 --> 00:51:29,520
would call me every few months

1335
00:51:33,589 --> 00:51:32,000
and uh with just these stories he had

1336
00:51:36,230 --> 00:51:33,599
these sightings and i used to think he

1337
00:51:37,750 --> 00:51:36,240
was full of crap and that one night with

1338
00:51:40,390 --> 00:51:37,760
the screams it just

1339
00:51:42,069 --> 00:51:40,400
i don't know man that that gets to you

1340
00:51:43,990 --> 00:51:42,079
and i was just a little baby bigfooter

1341
00:51:46,630 --> 00:51:44,000
back then like

1342
00:51:47,910 --> 00:51:46,640
hell it was it was frightening guys very

1343
00:51:51,270 --> 00:51:47,920
frightening

1344
00:51:54,950 --> 00:51:51,280
how about you butch

1345
00:51:56,710 --> 00:51:54,960
oh my let's see the most uh terrifying

1346
00:52:02,829 --> 00:51:56,720
encounter in halloween

1347
00:52:02,839 --> 00:52:06,390
halloween

1348
00:52:12,230 --> 00:52:09,750
well again also we have to be clearfield

1349
00:52:14,790 --> 00:52:12,240
county when we were on an expedition

1350
00:52:16,549 --> 00:52:14,800
and uh for the weekend we had tom

1351
00:52:17,910 --> 00:52:16,559
ferran's son matt and myself

1352
00:52:19,829 --> 00:52:17,920
and troy we were up there for the

1353
00:52:21,829 --> 00:52:19,839
weekend um

1354
00:52:22,950 --> 00:52:21,839
on mountain road where right below

1355
00:52:26,069 --> 00:52:22,960
mountain road and off the

1356
00:52:27,109 --> 00:52:26,079
off to the off to the west about a mile

1357
00:52:29,750 --> 00:52:27,119
and a half was our first

1358
00:52:30,950 --> 00:52:29,760
bipedal report and then the second one

1359
00:52:31,750 --> 00:52:30,960
was about 10 miles in the other

1360
00:52:35,990 --> 00:52:31,760
direction

1361
00:52:37,510 --> 00:52:36,000
but the it was on the whole weekend was

1362
00:52:38,790 --> 00:52:37,520
kind of unnerving because it was a full

1363
00:52:40,470 --> 00:52:38,800
moon weekend

1364
00:52:42,549 --> 00:52:40,480
we heard nothing in the woods i mean

1365
00:52:43,670 --> 00:52:42,559
nothing we didn't see anything we heard

1366
00:52:47,430 --> 00:52:43,680
nothing

1367
00:52:49,190 --> 00:52:47,440
no birds no deer and you know the ranger

1368
00:52:51,030 --> 00:52:49,200
uh was kind enough to come check on it a

1369
00:52:52,950 --> 00:52:51,040
couple times and

1370
00:52:54,470 --> 00:52:52,960
i said images are normally this quiet he

1371
00:52:57,750 --> 00:52:54,480
says no

1372
00:52:58,870 --> 00:52:57,760
he said that just uh he said what

1373
00:53:00,470 --> 00:52:58,880
what you're going through right now is

1374
00:53:01,990 --> 00:53:00,480
he said there's some kind of predator in

1375
00:53:04,150 --> 00:53:02,000
the area he said it could be a bear

1376
00:53:05,589 --> 00:53:04,160
could be this could be that it could be

1377
00:53:08,069 --> 00:53:05,599
coy wolves

1378
00:53:09,109 --> 00:53:08,079
or uh and i'm thinking myself yeah well

1379
00:53:11,190 --> 00:53:09,119
i hope

1380
00:53:13,510 --> 00:53:11,200
it's a lot more than that because that's

1381
00:53:15,190 --> 00:53:13,520
what we're set up for but

1382
00:53:17,750 --> 00:53:15,200
you know we couldn't keep a fire going

1383
00:53:19,990 --> 00:53:17,760
at night no wind

1384
00:53:22,549 --> 00:53:20,000
uh when the wind did come it came from

1385
00:53:24,309 --> 00:53:22,559
north and went south and went south went

1386
00:53:26,710 --> 00:53:24,319
north or east and west

1387
00:53:28,150 --> 00:53:26,720
and when i talked to the noaa people up

1388
00:53:29,829 --> 00:53:28,160
at penn state university

1389
00:53:31,349 --> 00:53:29,839
you know the guy says you know i said

1390
00:53:33,910 --> 00:53:31,359
how does that happen

1391
00:53:34,630 --> 00:53:33,920
you know our our little portable we

1392
00:53:36,630 --> 00:53:34,640
didn't have our big

1393
00:53:38,150 --> 00:53:36,640
uh weather station we had the portable

1394
00:53:39,990 --> 00:53:38,160
hanging in the tree

1395
00:53:42,230 --> 00:53:40,000
and that does the same thing and it's

1396
00:53:44,549 --> 00:53:42,240
all captured on an sd card

1397
00:53:46,150 --> 00:53:44,559
and i said but you know the wind changes

1398
00:53:47,430 --> 00:53:46,160
north south east west it doesn't go

1399
00:53:48,710 --> 00:53:47,440
anyplace else

1400
00:53:49,990 --> 00:53:48,720
and he said well he said it's not

1401
00:53:51,430 --> 00:53:50,000
unusual he said it's not going to happen

1402
00:53:52,950 --> 00:53:51,440
in pennsylvania he said but you couldn't

1403
00:53:54,470 --> 00:53:52,960
find it in the himalayas and i went like

1404
00:53:56,710 --> 00:53:54,480
oh okay great

1405
00:53:57,990 --> 00:53:56,720
but it was just uh it was eerie uh you

1406
00:54:01,589 --> 00:53:58,000
know like the full moon

1407
00:54:05,829 --> 00:54:01,599
uh all the coyote and coy wolves nothing

1408
00:54:09,030 --> 00:54:05,839
no howling basically dead silence

1409
00:54:13,829 --> 00:54:12,150
uh hey sean uh go ahead and talk about

1410
00:54:16,069 --> 00:54:13,839
clearfield again people want to hear

1411
00:54:18,069 --> 00:54:16,079
about that well so clearfield

1412
00:54:21,190 --> 00:54:18,079
i mean you really have to know

1413
00:54:23,670 --> 00:54:21,200
clearfield county has been a huge

1414
00:54:25,030 --> 00:54:23,680
uh area of bigfoot sightings over the

1415
00:54:26,630 --> 00:54:25,040
years i mean we're not talking about

1416
00:54:28,230 --> 00:54:26,640
recently we're talking about

1417
00:54:30,309 --> 00:54:28,240
since we've probably been collecting

1418
00:54:33,109 --> 00:54:30,319
bigfoot reports in ba

1419
00:54:35,030 --> 00:54:33,119
clearfield has had the sighting reports

1420
00:54:37,109 --> 00:54:35,040
large concentrations in the alleg you

1421
00:54:39,589 --> 00:54:37,119
know near the allegheny national forest

1422
00:54:41,109 --> 00:54:39,599
it's very wilderness type area in this

1423
00:54:43,829 --> 00:54:41,119
particular area we were at

1424
00:54:44,630 --> 00:54:43,839
rockton mountain uh there had been

1425
00:54:47,190 --> 00:54:44,640
sightings there

1426
00:54:50,230 --> 00:54:47,200
actually that year that october

1427
00:54:52,069 --> 00:54:50,240
september october we went long

1428
00:54:53,430 --> 00:54:52,079
that year there were a whole bunch of

1429
00:54:55,510 --> 00:54:53,440
sighting reports that happened which is

1430
00:54:56,230 --> 00:54:55,520
why we went to that area to kind of

1431
00:54:57,750 --> 00:54:56,240
elicit

1432
00:55:00,069 --> 00:54:57,760
you know see if we could you know pick

1433
00:55:01,589 --> 00:55:00,079
up some activity you know you go into

1434
00:55:02,390 --> 00:55:01,599
these areas and i don't think you ever

1435
00:55:04,470 --> 00:55:02,400
really

1436
00:55:05,990 --> 00:55:04,480
ever anticipate anything happening at

1437
00:55:09,270 --> 00:55:06,000
least i don't maybe because i'm more

1438
00:55:12,150 --> 00:55:09,280
cynical than i am uh you know practical

1439
00:55:13,910 --> 00:55:12,160
but uh we had some equipment in the tent

1440
00:55:15,270 --> 00:55:13,920
and we were setting up for the night and

1441
00:55:18,829 --> 00:55:15,280
there were uh derek uh

1442
00:55:22,470 --> 00:55:18,839
derek eric altman

1443
00:55:25,750 --> 00:55:22,480
uh ryan cavalene

1444
00:55:27,510 --> 00:55:25,760
and uh dave rupert

1445
00:55:28,549 --> 00:55:27,520
were there with us uh at the beginning

1446
00:55:30,150 --> 00:55:28,559
of the evening we were gonna make a

1447
00:55:33,030 --> 00:55:30,160
whole weekend of it

1448
00:55:35,030 --> 00:55:33,040
uh we were three of us myself dustin

1449
00:55:36,950 --> 00:55:35,040
kinley and ray hendershot

1450
00:55:38,630 --> 00:55:36,960
uh we were the ones that actually stayed

1451
00:55:40,710 --> 00:55:38,640
in this area all night

1452
00:55:42,549 --> 00:55:40,720
right and as we're sitting there kind of

1453
00:55:43,990 --> 00:55:42,559
the fires going

1454
00:55:45,990 --> 00:55:44,000
i see something run through the

1455
00:55:48,470 --> 00:55:46,000
peripheral

1456
00:55:50,309 --> 00:55:48,480
uh into the woods you know only lit

1457
00:55:53,670 --> 00:55:50,319
right now by the campfire and some very

1458
00:55:55,510 --> 00:55:53,680
you know some moonlight and i looked

1459
00:55:57,750 --> 00:55:55,520
over at dustin real quick and dustin and

1460
00:55:59,270 --> 00:55:57,760
i stand up and we run to the

1461
00:56:00,789 --> 00:55:59,280
wood line because you can hear something

1462
00:56:02,470 --> 00:56:00,799
running through the

1463
00:56:03,589 --> 00:56:02,480
the brush and he and i both look at each

1464
00:56:04,950 --> 00:56:03,599
other like well that was pretty

1465
00:56:06,150 --> 00:56:04,960
interesting like you know at this point

1466
00:56:08,069 --> 00:56:06,160
we're thinking okay

1467
00:56:09,589 --> 00:56:08,079
maybe we had a deer or something run

1468
00:56:10,390 --> 00:56:09,599
through it's just our mind playing

1469
00:56:13,270 --> 00:56:10,400
tricks on us

1470
00:56:14,549 --> 00:56:13,280
you know whatever uh we just kind of

1471
00:56:16,309 --> 00:56:14,559
think well we'll sit here and see if we

1472
00:56:17,829 --> 00:56:16,319
can get anything else

1473
00:56:19,270 --> 00:56:17,839
you know throughout the night well we

1474
00:56:21,829 --> 00:56:19,280
wait a couple hours and nothing's

1475
00:56:24,549 --> 00:56:21,839
happening so we put the fire out

1476
00:56:25,829 --> 00:56:24,559
and we go into the tent yeah we're lying

1477
00:56:28,870 --> 00:56:25,839
there probably about 20

1478
00:56:30,069 --> 00:56:28,880
25 minutes and all of a sudden we hear

1479
00:56:33,109 --> 00:56:30,079
something

1480
00:56:35,750 --> 00:56:33,119
walking around the campsite

1481
00:56:36,630 --> 00:56:35,760
now there's a difference between bipedal

1482
00:56:40,150 --> 00:56:36,640
walking

1483
00:56:42,950 --> 00:56:40,160
and uh you know an animal on fours

1484
00:56:44,630 --> 00:56:42,960
walking around and i look over at you

1485
00:56:46,390 --> 00:56:44,640
know dustin i see his cell phone light

1486
00:56:47,990 --> 00:56:46,400
come on now there's no cell phone but in

1487
00:56:48,870 --> 00:56:48,000
the middle of this meadow we're camping

1488
00:56:50,710 --> 00:56:48,880
in

1489
00:56:52,309 --> 00:56:50,720
all right there's no cell phone service

1490
00:56:54,230 --> 00:56:52,319
and i'm talking like one bar someone

1491
00:56:57,190 --> 00:56:54,240
ain't even that great

1492
00:56:58,630 --> 00:56:57,200
uh so dusty did you hear that i'm like

1493
00:56:59,990 --> 00:56:58,640
yeah i hear it

1494
00:57:01,270 --> 00:57:00,000
you know i wonder what the heck it is so

1495
00:57:03,270 --> 00:57:01,280
we're lying there and we're hearing this

1496
00:57:06,870 --> 00:57:03,280
and ray saw and logs he's asleep

1497
00:57:09,190 --> 00:57:06,880
uh and

1498
00:57:10,470 --> 00:57:09,200
i go and i look up and we can see this

1499
00:57:14,309 --> 00:57:10,480
faint orange glow

1500
00:57:16,069 --> 00:57:14,319
coming from the outside of our tent

1501
00:57:17,750 --> 00:57:16,079
so dustin throws his boots on and goes

1502
00:57:18,069 --> 00:57:17,760
out and something had started the fire

1503
00:57:22,789 --> 00:57:18,079
back

1504
00:57:24,390 --> 00:57:22,799
onto the fire

1505
00:57:27,030 --> 00:57:24,400
and the fire was starting to rekindle

1506
00:57:29,030 --> 00:57:27,040
itself so he'll say sean come out here

1507
00:57:31,510 --> 00:57:29,040
look at this so i go to throw

1508
00:57:32,870 --> 00:57:31,520
my boots on and he goes throw me my gun

1509
00:57:34,150 --> 00:57:32,880
so i go to get out and i

1510
00:57:36,069 --> 00:57:34,160
literally threw him his gun like an

1511
00:57:37,670 --> 00:57:36,079
idiot and he goes holy [\h__\h] look and

1512
00:57:39,829 --> 00:57:37,680
something runs up the hill of our

1513
00:57:41,670 --> 00:57:39,839
campsite

1514
00:57:42,870 --> 00:57:41,680
very similar to what ran through our

1515
00:57:45,990 --> 00:57:42,880
campsite earlier

1516
00:57:47,510 --> 00:57:46,000
that night okay so i wake right up we

1517
00:57:49,829 --> 00:57:47,520
get out

1518
00:57:52,150 --> 00:57:49,839
and like you can hear it running around

1519
00:57:54,230 --> 00:57:52,160
the perimeter of our campsite

1520
00:57:55,990 --> 00:57:54,240
it's freaking me out man okay because

1521
00:57:57,589 --> 00:57:56,000
like

1522
00:57:58,789 --> 00:57:57,599
you know you don't expect this to happen

1523
00:57:59,910 --> 00:57:58,799
and it's happening and you're like well

1524
00:58:02,870 --> 00:57:59,920
what the hell is this

1525
00:58:05,030 --> 00:58:02,880
is somebody messing with us out here uh

1526
00:58:07,349 --> 00:58:05,040
uh so we you know threw some verbal

1527
00:58:08,470 --> 00:58:07,359
warnings at it and uh you know kind of

1528
00:58:09,349 --> 00:58:08,480
if you don't show yourself we're gonna

1529
00:58:12,870 --> 00:58:09,359
start shooting

1530
00:58:15,349 --> 00:58:12,880
probably wouldn't but uh and it stops

1531
00:58:16,549 --> 00:58:15,359
so i get on the phone and i call dave

1532
00:58:17,990 --> 00:58:16,559
rupert's wife

1533
00:58:19,190 --> 00:58:18,000
and she you could call her encounter

1534
00:58:20,789 --> 00:58:19,200
this day i'm like you need to get these

1535
00:58:21,990 --> 00:58:20,799
guys back in here because i really don't

1536
00:58:23,990 --> 00:58:22,000
want to stay out here anymore tonight

1537
00:58:25,430 --> 00:58:24,000
it's just the three of us with god knows

1538
00:58:26,870 --> 00:58:25,440
what running around our campsite i'm

1539
00:58:28,390 --> 00:58:26,880
just not comfortable

1540
00:58:30,789 --> 00:58:28,400
well eric was sitting all the way back

1541
00:58:33,670 --> 00:58:30,799
home so he wasn't coming back

1542
00:58:36,309 --> 00:58:33,680
but dave and ryan were probably 45

1543
00:58:37,430 --> 00:58:36,319
minutes from our location so she goes

1544
00:58:38,150 --> 00:58:37,440
well i'll try to get a hold of these

1545
00:58:39,750 --> 00:58:38,160
guys

1546
00:58:41,270 --> 00:58:39,760
and i'll send them out your way so we're

1547
00:58:42,950 --> 00:58:41,280
sitting there and uh

1548
00:58:45,190 --> 00:58:42,960
you know about an hour and then dave and

1549
00:58:47,030 --> 00:58:45,200
ryan come out and you actually ryan

1550
00:58:48,870 --> 00:58:47,040
has our reactions filmed you could

1551
00:58:51,349 --> 00:58:48,880
probably see the film to this day of us

1552
00:58:52,549 --> 00:58:51,359
petrified wanting to be extracted out of

1553
00:58:54,870 --> 00:58:52,559
there

1554
00:58:55,829 --> 00:58:54,880
and uh they managed to talk us down like

1555
00:58:57,829 --> 00:58:55,839
hey you know what

1556
00:58:59,190 --> 00:58:57,839
this is why we're out here you guys are

1557
00:59:01,270 --> 00:58:59,200
out here getting some you know good

1558
00:59:02,549 --> 00:59:01,280
activity do you think you could stay

1559
00:59:04,390 --> 00:59:02,559
and we'll hang out with you for a little

1560
00:59:05,030 --> 00:59:04,400
bit and then we're gonna go okay fine

1561
00:59:06,549 --> 00:59:05,040
we'll stay

1562
00:59:09,430 --> 00:59:06,559
you made us seem like we're heroes we'll

1563
00:59:11,030 --> 00:59:09,440
go ahead and stay a little longer

1564
00:59:13,349 --> 00:59:11,040
you know we're out there nothing happens

1565
00:59:15,510 --> 00:59:13,359
so they go and leave

1566
00:59:17,190 --> 00:59:15,520
well about 35-40 minutes after they

1567
00:59:18,390 --> 00:59:17,200
leave

1568
00:59:21,109 --> 00:59:18,400
here comes something through our

1569
00:59:23,750 --> 00:59:21,119
campsite again well at this point we

1570
00:59:26,309 --> 00:59:23,760
are ready okay we jump out like we're a

1571
00:59:28,630 --> 00:59:26,319
two-man three-man extermination team

1572
00:59:30,309 --> 00:59:28,640
and i start yelling at this thing and

1573
00:59:33,750 --> 00:59:30,319
you could see it

1574
00:59:37,270 --> 00:59:33,760
just faintly moving from behind a tree

1575
00:59:40,630 --> 00:59:37,280
and back looking at us so dustin took

1576
00:59:42,230 --> 00:59:40,640
one of his uh glow sticks

1577
00:59:43,670 --> 00:59:42,240
he throws the glow stick out into the

1578
00:59:45,829 --> 00:59:43,680
woods

1579
00:59:47,349 --> 00:59:45,839
well something picks that glow stick up

1580
00:59:49,190 --> 00:59:47,359
and is walking around with it

1581
00:59:51,270 --> 00:59:49,200
and i yell at it it throws the glow

1582
00:59:52,150 --> 00:59:51,280
stick down well i had enough and i'm

1583
00:59:53,750 --> 00:59:52,160
like all right

1584
00:59:56,069 --> 00:59:53,760
obviously this is somebody messing with

1585
00:59:58,069 --> 00:59:56,079
us i said dustin get your gun ready so i

1586
01:00:00,230 --> 00:59:58,079
start yelling at this thing

1587
01:00:01,349 --> 01:00:00,240
that you know show yourself now we're

1588
01:00:02,230 --> 01:00:01,359
gonna start pumping you for a little bit

1589
01:00:03,990 --> 01:00:02,240
i've had enough

1590
01:00:05,349 --> 01:00:04,000
like shoot it dust and shoot it well

1591
01:00:07,030 --> 01:00:05,359
dustin couldn't shoot it because he

1592
01:00:10,390 --> 01:00:07,040
didn't want to commit a crime

1593
01:00:12,069 --> 01:00:10,400
and uh it did run off and uh

1594
01:00:14,069 --> 01:00:12,079
it just left us with this feeling it

1595
01:00:15,750 --> 01:00:14,079
kept coming back and i'm probably not

1596
01:00:17,750 --> 01:00:15,760
doing the story justice because i really

1597
01:00:20,789 --> 01:00:17,760
wasn't planning on talking about it

1598
01:00:22,390 --> 01:00:20,799
but uh the next morning uh we go back

1599
01:00:22,789 --> 01:00:22,400
and we lay down on the ten it starts to

1600
01:00:24,789 --> 01:00:22,799
rain

1601
01:00:26,549 --> 01:00:24,799
nothing's happening okay nothing happens

1602
01:00:29,109 --> 01:00:26,559
for the rest of the night

1603
01:00:30,230 --> 01:00:29,119
uh we get up the next morning we throw

1604
01:00:32,950 --> 01:00:30,240
everything into a tote

1605
01:00:34,870 --> 01:00:32,960
and i run with that tote to the mile and

1606
01:00:36,870 --> 01:00:34,880
a half two miles back to my

1607
01:00:38,950 --> 01:00:36,880
my van it took me probably eight minutes

1608
01:00:41,190 --> 01:00:38,960
to run that far and i'm fat okay that's

1609
01:00:43,510 --> 01:00:41,200
a feat for a guy my side

1610
01:00:44,950 --> 01:00:43,520
and i called my wife on the way home i

1611
01:00:46,390 --> 01:00:44,960
said i'm coming home early and she goes

1612
01:00:47,990 --> 01:00:46,400
we're supposed to be gone for the

1613
01:00:49,190 --> 01:00:48,000
weekend i'm like i'm done i'm done with

1614
01:00:50,150 --> 01:00:49,200
this [\h__\h] i don't want to do this

1615
01:00:51,750 --> 01:00:50,160
anymore

1616
01:00:53,270 --> 01:00:51,760
i'm finished and then i went home and

1617
01:00:54,710 --> 01:00:53,280
called eric and lana i even talked to

1618
01:00:55,349 --> 01:00:54,720
you i said i'm done i don't want to do

1619
01:00:58,230 --> 01:00:55,359
this

1620
01:00:58,789 --> 01:00:58,240
it left me with such fear because

1621
01:01:01,829 --> 01:00:58,799
whatever

1622
01:01:03,270 --> 01:01:01,839
it was didn't care that we were going to

1623
01:01:04,470 --> 01:01:03,280
harm it

1624
01:01:06,069 --> 01:01:04,480
maybe i didn't understand it maybe we

1625
01:01:07,670 --> 01:01:06,079
couldn't reason with it and it didn't

1626
01:01:09,510 --> 01:01:07,680
care that it was intruding in our space

1627
01:01:10,789 --> 01:01:09,520
and it kept coming back

1628
01:01:12,789 --> 01:01:10,799
and that was the thing that frightened

1629
01:01:13,750 --> 01:01:12,799
me the most is that it kept coming back

1630
01:01:15,670 --> 01:01:13,760
to us

1631
01:01:17,589 --> 01:01:15,680
and i didn't know what it was gonna do

1632
01:01:18,390 --> 01:01:17,599
and at one point when we were talking

1633
01:01:20,789 --> 01:01:18,400
about it later

1634
01:01:22,309 --> 01:01:20,799
ray said he distinctly remembers

1635
01:01:25,829 --> 01:01:22,319
something reaching and touching him

1636
01:01:27,430 --> 01:01:25,839
through the tent wall

1637
01:01:29,349 --> 01:01:27,440
i slept in the you know center of the

1638
01:01:31,109 --> 01:01:29,359
tent nothing would have touched me but

1639
01:01:32,789 --> 01:01:31,119
ray said he distinctly remembers being

1640
01:01:35,109 --> 01:01:32,799
touched and then i think about

1641
01:01:37,829 --> 01:01:35,119
uh you know my buddy billy willard who

1642
01:01:40,069 --> 01:01:37,839
was grabbed in his tent in paris texas

1643
01:01:43,430 --> 01:01:40,079
uh something grabbed his leg in the tent

1644
01:01:44,789 --> 01:01:43,440
and uh you know steve calls and uh

1645
01:01:46,309 --> 01:01:44,799
you start putting things together and

1646
01:01:48,870 --> 01:01:46,319
you're like well what the hell did we

1647
01:01:51,829 --> 01:01:48,880
experience out there and

1648
01:01:53,589 --> 01:01:51,839
it took me two years to go back to that

1649
01:01:55,109 --> 01:01:53,599
area guys two years it took me to get

1650
01:01:57,349 --> 01:01:55,119
the courage to go back and that was with

1651
01:02:00,549 --> 01:01:57,359
a large team of like 12 people

1652
01:02:02,069 --> 01:02:00,559
yeah you know i remember that distinctly

1653
01:02:05,270 --> 01:02:02,079
because it's funny i was

1654
01:02:06,549 --> 01:02:05,280
i was at home that night i mean i'm down

1655
01:02:10,390 --> 01:02:06,559
in maryland

1656
01:02:12,630 --> 01:02:10,400
and eric called me

1657
01:02:14,549 --> 01:02:12,640
and he says i don't know what the heck

1658
01:02:18,870 --> 01:02:14,559
you know we're on my way back from

1659
01:02:20,870 --> 01:02:18,880
from uh clearfield and uh

1660
01:02:22,390 --> 01:02:20,880
sean just called me did he call you and

1661
01:02:24,390 --> 01:02:22,400
you hadn't called me yet

1662
01:02:26,390 --> 01:02:24,400
i said no he said i don't know what the

1663
01:02:28,230 --> 01:02:26,400
hell is going on up there but he said

1664
01:02:29,750 --> 01:02:28,240
man he's scary shitless something's up

1665
01:02:31,750 --> 01:02:29,760
there in the camp

1666
01:02:34,549 --> 01:02:31,760
i said was anybody going back up he said

1667
01:02:36,390 --> 01:02:34,559
well i'm not well he's gonna have

1668
01:02:38,870 --> 01:02:36,400
somebody come up here i guess so

1669
01:02:42,069 --> 01:02:38,880
well dave rupert went back to look yeah

1670
01:02:43,510 --> 01:02:42,079
dave had had game cameras up right

1671
01:02:45,910 --> 01:02:43,520
now the one thing i didn't think about

1672
01:02:47,589 --> 01:02:45,920
and i i mention this sometimes not all

1673
01:02:49,750 --> 01:02:47,599
the time but while we're in the tent

1674
01:02:51,109 --> 01:02:49,760
as it started to rain there's this

1675
01:02:52,870 --> 01:02:51,119
bright flash of light

1676
01:02:54,230 --> 01:02:52,880
so i was like okay well there's a game

1677
01:02:56,230 --> 01:02:54,240
cam out there because i know dave put

1678
01:02:58,069 --> 01:02:56,240
game cams up

1679
01:02:59,040 --> 01:02:58,079
uh i wonder if that flash was from a

1680
01:03:00,470 --> 01:02:59,050
game camera

1681
01:03:02,630 --> 01:03:00,480
[Music]

1682
01:03:03,510 --> 01:03:02,640
so i talked to dave a couple days later

1683
01:03:06,150 --> 01:03:03,520
he goes no those

1684
01:03:07,430 --> 01:03:06,160
cameras didn't have any flashes on them

1685
01:03:09,670 --> 01:03:07,440
but none of the cameras

1686
01:03:11,109 --> 01:03:09,680
were posted towards the campsite per se

1687
01:03:14,390 --> 01:03:11,119
because we set the cam

1688
01:03:16,870 --> 01:03:14,400
we set the tents up after

1689
01:03:18,150 --> 01:03:16,880
he or before he had set up the the

1690
01:03:20,390 --> 01:03:18,160
cameras you know what i mean

1691
01:03:22,150 --> 01:03:20,400
like so it was just it was just weird

1692
01:03:24,150 --> 01:03:22,160
and like none of that

1693
01:03:25,589 --> 01:03:24,160
none of that got documented and the

1694
01:03:27,589 --> 01:03:25,599
[\h__\h] of this is it really

1695
01:03:29,510 --> 01:03:27,599
pisses me off now in hindsight i had my

1696
01:03:31,750 --> 01:03:29,520
sony handycam

1697
01:03:33,270 --> 01:03:31,760
in the tent with night vision and we

1698
01:03:34,870 --> 01:03:33,280
probably could have used it to at least

1699
01:03:36,549 --> 01:03:34,880
see what we were looking at

1700
01:03:38,470 --> 01:03:36,559
but at no point again this is where you

1701
01:03:39,990 --> 01:03:38,480
empathize with witnesses because at

1702
01:03:42,789 --> 01:03:40,000
no point when you're going through this

1703
01:03:44,950 --> 01:03:42,799
do you think hey i need to grab that

1704
01:03:46,069 --> 01:03:44,960
you know what i mean maybe you know i

1705
01:03:47,589 --> 01:03:46,079
need to really grab

1706
01:03:49,109 --> 01:03:47,599
that and use it and i don't know how

1707
01:03:51,109 --> 01:03:49,119
many times i've heard people say it and

1708
01:03:52,630 --> 01:03:51,119
before i had my experience

1709
01:03:54,950 --> 01:03:52,640
i used to say well that's just the

1710
01:03:56,710 --> 01:03:54,960
biggest load of bs like whatever

1711
01:03:57,990 --> 01:03:56,720
until you go through and experience it

1712
01:03:59,990 --> 01:03:58,000
you're like no it's because you're just

1713
01:04:01,910 --> 01:04:00,000
not thinking about it at that moment

1714
01:04:02,950 --> 01:04:01,920
i'm thinking of self-preservation and

1715
01:04:04,549 --> 01:04:02,960
getting the hell out of there i'm not

1716
01:04:05,510 --> 01:04:04,559
thinking about taking one for the team

1717
01:04:08,230 --> 01:04:05,520
and getting evidence

1718
01:04:10,549 --> 01:04:08,240
you know like i want to get out it was a

1719
01:04:12,789 --> 01:04:10,559
horrible experience

1720
01:04:14,230 --> 01:04:12,799
well for folks who don't know what we're

1721
01:04:17,109 --> 01:04:14,240
talking about this was the

1722
01:04:19,270 --> 01:04:17,119
pennsylvania bigfoot society's research

1723
01:04:21,430 --> 01:04:19,280
area up in clearfield now

1724
01:04:22,470 --> 01:04:21,440
it's still in the research area you guys

1725
01:04:25,109 --> 01:04:22,480
still using it

1726
01:04:25,990 --> 01:04:25,119
yep you still use it well i have heard a

1727
01:04:29,109 --> 01:04:26,000
lot of stories

1728
01:04:33,109 --> 01:04:29,119
about what has gone on up there because

1729
01:04:35,510 --> 01:04:33,119
i know uh eric used to tell us about

1730
01:04:37,510 --> 01:04:35,520
uh they'd be out in the middle of the

1731
01:04:39,510 --> 01:04:37,520
meadow and they'd have

1732
01:04:41,349 --> 01:04:39,520
twigs and stones and stuff thrown from

1733
01:04:44,630 --> 01:04:41,359
both sides at them

1734
01:04:46,710 --> 01:04:44,640
and uh he had a pretty interesting ufo

1735
01:04:49,270 --> 01:04:46,720
encounter there as well

1736
01:04:50,549 --> 01:04:49,280
so um he was seeing all kinds of lights

1737
01:04:51,829 --> 01:04:50,559
in the sky that were just doing the

1738
01:04:53,589 --> 01:04:51,839
crazy stuff

1739
01:04:56,150 --> 01:04:53,599
so there's something definitely going on

1740
01:04:57,349 --> 01:04:56,160
up there and i have never been up there

1741
01:04:59,750 --> 01:04:57,359
unfortunately

1742
01:05:01,430 --> 01:04:59,760
well i can tell you alon that uh several

1743
01:05:02,789 --> 01:05:01,440
times i've been up there with other

1744
01:05:05,589 --> 01:05:02,799
investigators

1745
01:05:07,589 --> 01:05:05,599
and one thing we can all we could almost

1746
01:05:09,510 --> 01:05:07,599
depend on it while we're there is just

1747
01:05:11,430 --> 01:05:09,520
an unknown flash of light

1748
01:05:13,109 --> 01:05:11,440
for whatever reason it happens every

1749
01:05:15,670 --> 01:05:13,119
time we go up there it's happened to me

1750
01:05:17,670 --> 01:05:15,680
with brian and terry siege

1751
01:05:19,349 --> 01:05:17,680
it's happened to me with rupert like no

1752
01:05:21,270 --> 01:05:19,359
matter who i've been up there with

1753
01:05:23,109 --> 01:05:21,280
that flash of light has happened i've

1754
01:05:24,390 --> 01:05:23,119
tried to find a source for it there's no

1755
01:05:26,710 --> 01:05:24,400
source for it

1756
01:05:29,430 --> 01:05:26,720
i don't know what it is now nobody can

1757
01:05:31,510 --> 01:05:29,440
report any missing time or anything

1758
01:05:32,470 --> 01:05:31,520
but it's nonetheless something you

1759
01:05:34,309 --> 01:05:32,480
notate

1760
01:05:36,150 --> 01:05:34,319
you know when you get up there now

1761
01:05:37,589 --> 01:05:36,160
apparently this area it looks a lot

1762
01:05:37,910 --> 01:05:37,599
different now because they're starting

1763
01:05:41,510 --> 01:05:37,920
to

1764
01:05:43,029 --> 01:05:41,520
they're using it for other purposes now

1765
01:05:45,430 --> 01:05:43,039
keep your mind when i went to get a

1766
01:05:47,510 --> 01:05:45,440
permit to camp in this meadow

1767
01:05:51,029 --> 01:05:47,520
the dcnr had no idea what the hell we

1768
01:05:53,430 --> 01:05:51,039
were talking about up on google earth to

1769
01:05:54,950 --> 01:05:53,440
show them this spot

1770
01:05:57,029 --> 01:05:54,960
well they've been frank they frack up

1771
01:05:57,990 --> 01:05:57,039
there don't they i think they are now

1772
01:06:00,710 --> 01:05:58,000
but back then

1773
01:06:02,230 --> 01:06:00,720
you know 2012 that wasn't happening yeah

1774
01:06:04,470 --> 01:06:02,240
in that area it was just a gas

1775
01:06:06,870 --> 01:06:04,480
line you know that runs through the you

1776
01:06:09,430 --> 01:06:06,880
know the pipeline that runs through

1777
01:06:11,109 --> 01:06:09,440
and uh that's what it or whatever it is

1778
01:06:13,270 --> 01:06:11,119
it's like it's under the ground but it's

1779
01:06:15,349 --> 01:06:13,280
you know an open area that you can just

1780
01:06:16,950 --> 01:06:15,359
walk for miles on end

1781
01:06:18,549 --> 01:06:16,960
and then there was this meadow off in

1782
01:06:20,230 --> 01:06:18,559
the woods that

1783
01:06:21,829 --> 01:06:20,240
you know you should be able to get a

1784
01:06:23,349 --> 01:06:21,839
camping spot for and people should know

1785
01:06:24,789 --> 01:06:23,359
about it but they had no idea what the

1786
01:06:28,230 --> 01:06:24,799
hell we were talking about when we got a

1787
01:06:32,549 --> 01:06:30,950
well i i think we're going to talk about

1788
01:06:35,029 --> 01:06:32,559
creepy stories i think

1789
01:06:36,309 --> 01:06:35,039
in my instance and i've talked about

1790
01:06:38,630 --> 01:06:36,319
this before because i even got a

1791
01:06:42,150 --> 01:06:38,640
recording of the ebp

1792
01:06:45,349 --> 01:06:42,160
but um it was a case i was working with

1793
01:06:52,309 --> 01:06:49,029
they were in neath wales

1794
01:06:53,750 --> 01:06:52,319
which is right along the uh the severn

1795
01:06:56,870 --> 01:06:53,760
river

1796
01:06:57,829 --> 01:06:56,880
uh in southern west southwest southeast

1797
01:07:02,069 --> 01:06:57,839
wales

1798
01:07:05,349 --> 01:07:02,079
and there was a pub and they had some

1799
01:07:05,829 --> 01:07:05,359
strange activity going on and you know

1800
01:07:11,589 --> 01:07:05,839
we

1801
01:07:14,789 --> 01:07:11,599
had gotten all kinds of crazy i i should

1802
01:07:18,549 --> 01:07:14,799
sean some of this years ago but uh

1803
01:07:21,750 --> 01:07:18,559
we had stuff disappearing on camera and

1804
01:07:25,029 --> 01:07:21,760
uh a lot of crazy apparitions

1805
01:07:26,789 --> 01:07:25,039
and a lot of weird stuff and we did re

1806
01:07:28,789 --> 01:07:26,799
remove views there but we actually

1807
01:07:32,150 --> 01:07:28,799
worked the area

1808
01:07:35,109 --> 01:07:32,160
for a couple months but and

1809
01:07:37,190 --> 01:07:35,119
the reason why we got called in was

1810
01:07:38,470 --> 01:07:37,200
because the two guys who were running

1811
01:07:40,230 --> 01:07:38,480
the place

1812
01:07:42,150 --> 01:07:40,240
at separate apartments they were living

1813
01:07:45,029 --> 01:07:42,160
upstairs above it

1814
01:07:46,150 --> 01:07:45,039
and one morning they had come downstairs

1815
01:07:48,630 --> 01:07:46,160
and the bar

1816
01:07:49,670 --> 01:07:48,640
something had caught something had took

1817
01:07:54,950 --> 01:07:49,680
the sugar

1818
01:07:56,710 --> 01:07:54,960
the bar

1819
01:07:58,630 --> 01:07:56,720
another night another morning they came

1820
01:08:00,789 --> 01:07:58,640
down and all the candles in place were

1821
01:08:03,829 --> 01:08:00,799
lit

1822
01:08:05,910 --> 01:08:03,839
uh something was going on uh

1823
01:08:08,150 --> 01:08:05,920
people had commented about an apparition

1824
01:08:09,910 --> 01:08:08,160
walking through the place during the day

1825
01:08:11,670 --> 01:08:09,920
this little girl that was walking

1826
01:08:13,910 --> 01:08:11,680
through

1827
01:08:16,789 --> 01:08:13,920
well anyway we had uh we were in there

1828
01:08:20,950 --> 01:08:16,799
one night i was on my computer i was

1829
01:08:23,510 --> 01:08:20,960
watching it through skype and uh

1830
01:08:25,269 --> 01:08:23,520
the head investigator told me that they

1831
01:08:26,390 --> 01:08:25,279
were going to go ahead and do some evps

1832
01:08:27,669 --> 01:08:26,400
i said okay

1833
01:08:31,269 --> 01:08:27,679
that's fine so i'm sitting there

1834
01:08:34,470 --> 01:08:31,279
watching it hoping i could see something

1835
01:08:37,030 --> 01:08:34,480
and we had another group here in the u.s

1836
01:08:38,470 --> 01:08:37,040
uh part of our group on another computer

1837
01:08:42,789 --> 01:08:38,480
that were watching

1838
01:08:46,070 --> 01:08:44,630
we didn't really hear anything online

1839
01:08:47,749 --> 01:08:46,080
though the other group said they heard

1840
01:08:50,070 --> 01:08:47,759
some voices

1841
01:08:51,349 --> 01:08:50,080
well they wrapped up the investigation

1842
01:08:54,709 --> 01:08:51,359
oh and i have to say

1843
01:08:56,950 --> 01:08:54,719
the the the uh the head investigator

1844
01:08:58,149 --> 01:08:56,960
had two of her friends from london there

1845
01:09:00,630 --> 01:08:58,159
with them

1846
01:09:03,430 --> 01:09:00,640
uh it was a guy by it was uh his a guy

1847
01:09:05,510 --> 01:09:03,440
by the name of barry and his wife

1848
01:09:07,510 --> 01:09:05,520
and they were close friends of this this

1849
01:09:09,590 --> 01:09:07,520
person so anyway

1850
01:09:10,709 --> 01:09:09,600
uh they wrapped up everything packed up

1851
01:09:13,030 --> 01:09:10,719
so i'm home

1852
01:09:15,829 --> 01:09:13,040
i'm you know what like two three in the

1853
01:09:18,709 --> 01:09:15,839
morning here in the united states

1854
01:09:19,829 --> 01:09:18,719
and i got a phone call from her and she

1855
01:09:22,870 --> 01:09:19,839
calls me up

1856
01:09:25,030 --> 01:09:22,880
about 45 minutes after they left

1857
01:09:27,189 --> 01:09:25,040
and you know she lives in wales too she

1858
01:09:30,309 --> 01:09:27,199
lives up near carmarthen

1859
01:09:32,789 --> 01:09:30,319
and uh she says

1860
01:09:35,510 --> 01:09:32,799
lorne i gotta i gotta play this evp for

1861
01:09:36,870 --> 01:09:35,520
you i i can't believe what i'm hearing

1862
01:09:39,349 --> 01:09:36,880
i said i'm thinking about saying yeah

1863
01:09:40,630 --> 01:09:39,359
okay so she goes goes ahead and puts it

1864
01:09:43,829 --> 01:09:40,640
on there

1865
01:09:47,430 --> 01:09:45,510
i think the first thing you think is old

1866
01:09:51,110 --> 01:09:47,440
hag talking

1867
01:09:54,630 --> 01:09:51,120
this voice came out and said barry

1868
01:09:56,149 --> 01:09:54,640
you're gonna die now and it was distinct

1869
01:09:59,030 --> 01:09:56,159
and i've got to record it

1870
01:10:00,070 --> 01:09:59,040
i got to put it on here one day and i'm

1871
01:10:02,709 --> 01:10:00,080
thinking myself

1872
01:10:04,550 --> 01:10:02,719
well what are you going to do about this

1873
01:10:06,630 --> 01:10:04,560
is i don't know

1874
01:10:08,950 --> 01:10:06,640
she's i'm afraid to tell my friend and

1875
01:10:11,830 --> 01:10:08,960
you know my friends about this

1876
01:10:12,709 --> 01:10:11,840
and uh she said i said well don't tell

1877
01:10:15,510 --> 01:10:12,719
them

1878
01:10:16,550 --> 01:10:15,520
okay is that but i mean it was probably

1879
01:10:20,229 --> 01:10:16,560
the best evp

1880
01:10:21,590 --> 01:10:20,239
mvp i've ever heard so about a week

1881
01:10:23,189 --> 01:10:21,600
later

1882
01:10:25,350 --> 01:10:23,199
and we've been talking about this all

1883
01:10:25,750 --> 01:10:25,360
week about a week later she calls me

1884
01:10:28,870 --> 01:10:25,760
back

1885
01:10:31,669 --> 01:10:28,880
up on skype and she says lon i gotta

1886
01:10:34,149 --> 01:10:31,679
tell you barry's dead

1887
01:10:36,470 --> 01:10:34,159
i said what the hell happened to barry

1888
01:10:39,590 --> 01:10:36,480
they were home in london

1889
01:10:40,070 --> 01:10:39,600
and he was selling his car so these two

1890
01:10:42,790 --> 01:10:40,080
guys

1891
01:10:43,990 --> 01:10:42,800
were out there and he was talking to him

1892
01:10:47,830 --> 01:10:44,000
about this car

1893
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:51,270
beat the hell out and killed him

1894
01:10:56,830 --> 01:10:54,950
so she eventually told the wife about

1895
01:11:00,470 --> 01:10:56,840
the evp

1896
01:11:03,110 --> 01:11:00,480
uh i i don't know i you know

1897
01:11:03,669 --> 01:11:03,120
i i did get the reporting according kept

1898
01:11:06,310 --> 01:11:03,679
it

1899
01:11:06,950 --> 01:11:06,320
she keeps she kept telling me do not

1900
01:11:09,590 --> 01:11:06,960
ever

1901
01:11:12,390 --> 01:11:09,600
play this for anybody but i did play it

1902
01:11:12,950 --> 01:11:12,400
on uh beyond the edge one time but it is

1903
01:11:15,910 --> 01:11:12,960
it is

1904
01:11:17,110 --> 01:11:15,920
very creepy but yeah the guy died like a

1905
01:11:22,229 --> 01:11:17,120
week later

1906
01:11:26,709 --> 01:11:25,350
just wow yeah it it the damnedest thing

1907
01:11:28,390 --> 01:11:26,719
that ever

1908
01:11:29,990 --> 01:11:28,400
i'd ever experienced you know i've seen

1909
01:11:32,550 --> 01:11:30,000
a lot of things and i've

1910
01:11:35,110 --> 01:11:32,560
heard a lot of things but you know as

1911
01:11:35,590 --> 01:11:35,120
far as a haunting or something like that

1912
01:11:42,550 --> 01:11:35,600
you just

1913
01:11:46,790 --> 01:11:42,560
experience but

1914
01:11:49,110 --> 01:11:46,800
yeah so guys i tell you what

1915
01:11:51,590 --> 01:11:49,120
uh we're gonna wrap this up and i i

1916
01:11:55,350 --> 01:11:51,600
appreciate you coming on here with me

1917
01:11:58,630 --> 01:11:55,360
and uh i'm sure we're gonna do it again

1918
01:11:59,910 --> 01:11:58,640
and i try to get as many you know i try

1919
01:12:02,390 --> 01:11:59,920
to get as many

1920
01:12:03,189 --> 01:12:02,400
folks on our team to come on here and do

1921
01:12:05,350 --> 01:12:03,199
this

1922
01:12:07,110 --> 01:12:05,360
you know we're up over 20 now as far as

1923
01:12:09,030 --> 01:12:07,120
the actual team goes

1924
01:12:11,910 --> 01:12:09,040
and we're signing affiliates up all the

1925
01:12:14,630 --> 01:12:11,920
time so um

1926
01:12:15,350 --> 01:12:14,640
i just want to say thank you guys and uh

1927
01:12:16,950 --> 01:12:15,360
you know

1928
01:12:19,350 --> 01:12:16,960
i really appreciate you coming on with

1929
01:12:22,950 --> 01:12:19,360
us well thank you my friend it's always

1930
01:12:27,350 --> 01:12:22,960
good to come on and talk with you

1931
01:12:28,950 --> 01:12:27,360
a lot of fun always good to be on

1932
01:12:30,390 --> 01:12:28,960
okay well you all take it easy you have

1933
01:12:31,510 --> 01:12:30,400
a good weekend i'll be talking to you

1934
01:12:34,550 --> 01:12:31,520
all soon

1935
01:12:37,510 --> 01:12:34,560
bye guys happy halloween

1936
01:12:38,470 --> 01:12:37,520
all right see you guys later okay you

1937
01:12:42,470 --> 01:12:38,480
take care

1938
01:12:44,390 --> 01:12:42,480
marcus now if uh you have an experienced

1939
01:12:46,709 --> 01:12:44,400
encounter exciting feel free to contact

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